As for Hayward's class, I saw a "*" as well. Nancy did tell me that there were others in our class who turned in things late, so she didn't want to submit the grades until everyone's was done. I'm sure if you ask her, she'll tell you what you have. Give her an email. Now, if you need advice about working with a freshman comp exit exam, I have nothing. I have never had any power in order to make those types of changes. Of course, you might try having them offer documented reasoning for having this exit exam (perhaps some texts?). I'd like to see what they have to say about it. In your own defense, you could offer a list of sources that show why exit exams are not a good idea. Joanna -----Original Message----- From: comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sharleen Santos-Bamba Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 6:40 PM To: comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Faculty meeting "I'm up in arms!" I must share my disappointment with my initial division faculty meeting for fall 2004. The "Ph.D." bunch in my division (not all, just 3 or 4) really got on my nerves the other day regarding comp. and assessment. According to them, they want to have an exit exam for Freshman Comp. (one that is timed and will determine whether or not the student gets to go to thenext level of Freshman comp). They are so elitist! I swear. Get a clue! Writing is a process! And a timed writing exam will not do justice! It hasn't gone through, but I know this subject will come up in committee again. Any advice? Give me ammunition to fight the Ivory Tower! Chris, I'm sure you have an idea of who I am talking about. If not, they are the husband andwife team, and my neighbor "Dr. It took me 8 years to finish my Ph.D." I often feel like the tenured faculty do not value the work that we non-bearing Ph.D.s do for this division and the University. Let me tell you,I can't wait to get this damn Ph.D. so I can have more clout in this place. This really motivates me even more to finish this dissertation. Bring on the advice, point me to experts! I miss you all already. Hope you all are doing well and readjusting to your regular lives. Hey, those who were in Hayward's class session 1, did you get your grade? I logged on to URSA and I didn't see my grade. I got an * for a grade. All myother course grades were there. Hmmm. Anyone know anything about that? Take care. Miss you all. Sharleen Sharleen Santos-Bamba[IMG] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE![1] --- Links --- 1 http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2731??PS=47575