Oh, I hear ya. I have a student who included her notes and quiz on plagiarism (the only quiz I give, which is open notes and held directly after our discussion about plagiarism, I might add) in her final = portfolio. Then, twenty pages later, in her final paper, she plagiarizes about = seven sections. She actually plagiarized the same two sentences three times = in her paper. Lacks the creativity of varying her information, I guess. = Yeah, I'm failing her. No, I don't feel like chatting with her about it. She clearly knows she broke the rules. Her portfolio proves it. Ha ha. I'll = be keeping that portfolio, though she requested it back for when she = transfers. Not with credits from my class. I hate that students don't listen to this crap anyway. It seems like I = am wasting my time even discussing it with them anymore. Anyone out there = have some solid lessons that seem to work for them? Please share. -----Original Message----- From: comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Natalie Dorfeld Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:05 AM To: comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Cheese balls . . . =20 =20 Hola, Peers --=20 =20 I hope you all find nice pads. Even if they're crappy, it's only for a = few short weeks. =20 =20 In other news, I am questioning the teaching genre as a whole today. I = am failing a kid for plagiarizing THREE times, but the higher powers think = he (we'll call him Chuck) deserves a fourth chance. I just need to give = better instruction. Funny, when I give it, Chuck isn't there. He has missed = 15 classes. =20 =20 Does anyone own a set anymore, or am I working in some warped Twilight = Zone episode? =20 =20 -- Ginger=20