[bvipilots] Re: Super ATC
- From: Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:39:02 -0700
Hello Christian,
Before embarking upon ANY flight, you MUST first Create, Save and Load a
flight in order for IYP to work properly. This is explained in excruciating
detail on PAGE 4 of the Flight Deck Doc, under the aptly named heading:
How to Properly Load a Flight Plan and a Flight
You can access the Flight Deck Doc both in PDF and Word formats here:
http://www.itsyourplane.com/html/manuals.asp
It is VITALLY IMPORTANT that these procedures be followed before ANY flight
is undertaken, and will, by definition, answer your question of the ICAO.
With respect to you post entitled...
Latest version of IYP and flight level confrimations
Once again this personifies the need to read the documentation and to fully
understand the SuperATC system before attempting to use this very complex
and demanding training tool.
When using SuperATC, the syntax is (as it would be in real life)...
"Climb and maintain Flight Level 230"
"1123 Heavy"
The 10 second delay you are referencing, is quite normal. It is the system
waiting for you to terminate the communication by appending your Call Sign.
As I stated in the earlier post, SuperATC is a training tool and is far too
restrictive for BVI use. It requires hours of studying.
Please revert back to SimpleATC.
Thank you.
Regards,
Robert
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Christian <christian08@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> Thanks for your reply.
> A such system sounds nice.
> I just have a question about the Super ATC, how do I find out the ICAO for
> the destination airport?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
>
>
> On 2012-03-10 at 19:43 Robert Cezar wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >As I indicated to Ron Kolesar, SuperATC appears to be far too complex for
> >most users. I will be creating another ATC system for BVI users that is
> >less demanding.
> >
> >SuperATC was created as a training tool. Its design objective was to FORCE
> >users to read the instructions and to have them follow the procedures in a
> >precise manner. For example, using:
> >
> >Arlanda ground
> >1123 heavy
> >IFR clearance to kastrup
> >ready to copy
> >
> >is incorrect syntax. Referring to the SuperATC documentation:
> >
> >http://www.itsyourplane.com/html/satc.asp<view-source:
> http://www.itsyourplane.com/html/satc.asp>
> >
> >when contacting Clearance Delivery, the LONG FORM of identification is
> >required. In addition, the destination airport needs to be defined by its
> >ICAO; not by its name.
> >
> >So, assuming the airline is Pacifica, the correct syntax is:
> >
> >Arlanda Ground
> >Pacifica 1123 Heavy
> >IFR Clearance to Echo Kilo Charlie Hotel
> >Ready to Copy
> >
> >In any case, as I stated at the top of this post, SuperATC as a training
> >tool, is far too restrictive for BVI use. The commands need to be precise.
> >What is needed is a system where one can use, for example...
> >
> >Hello Ground
> >1123 Heavy
> >I want clearance to Copenhagen
> >I'm ready when you are
> >
> >...and it will still work.
> >
> >I hope this helps.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Christian <christian08@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> Well, I decided to have a go with the Super ATC mode again, have been
> >> using Simple ATC but now it was time.
> >> I am having problems with requesting IFR clearances.
> >> When I had loaded my flight plan, I said, after I switched to ground:
> >> Arlanda ground 1123 heavy IFR clearance to kastrup ready to copy
> >> Nothing happened and I waited for the clicks before I proceeded with
> >> further instructions.
> >> Isn't this correct?
> >> Many thanks,
> >> Christian
> >>
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