[BNU] Re: Admin's letter (please read): current state of the list and possible resignation
- From: Ricardo Herrera <deathdogg@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "pianogirlforlife7@xxxxxxxxx" <pianogirlforlife7@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:58:42 -0800
I agree on all those points. Thanks.
Ricardo
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> On Feb 17, 2014, at 17:21, marissa <pianogirlforlife7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Joseph, Alex,
>
> I am sure I am not alone when saying this.
>
> You two have been very big help to this list, keeping it running and
> functional. Though it will be very sad to see either one of you go, it is
> for the best after all.
>
> Personally, I think that if you were to resign, I would not be the only one
> sad about it.
>
> You took time to read all of the emails and to respond as felt necessary.
> That takes dedication and time that you could be doing other things.
>
> But instead of doing those things, you sat down and helped out the list.
>
> I, along with others, appreciate all the hard work and effort you put in to
> this list, no mater if you were crashed on your machines by spams, upset by
> posts, or just generally annoyed at times, you still did your duty as list
> moderator and we appreciate it very much.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx
> To: <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:00:12 -0800
> Subject: [BNU] Admin's letter (please read): current state of the list and
> possible resignation
>
> Dear BrailleNote users, HumanWare staff and other supporters around the
> world:
>
> The below letter may come as a shock and a surprise (in a way, it is meant
> to be that way), but please read it till the end:
>
> When I first received my BrailleNote in 2004, I considered this computer a
> potential for blindness community in many areas, including connectivity,
> braille support and others. With this belief, I spent countless hours
> exploring the heart of KeySoft, changing system sounds, upgrading and
> downgrading KeySoft and what not. Back then, I hoped I would find a
> brailleNote users list where I can learn and share my experience using a
> BrailleNote, and I found one in October 2005 (the old version of this list,
> which was managed by HumanWare then). Fast forward nine years, and I stand
> before you as a list administrator and a webmaster, a job which I was
> entrusted to by many of you for the benefit of this community. But now, it
> appears that I'm slowly fading away from view, and am standing on this
> podium (alongside Alex Hall, the other administrator of this list) with the
> words I thought I would not say but may have to say it shortly: there is a
> possibility that I'll pass on my baton to someone i.e. I might resign from
> this post of administrator given recent events and other interests.
>
> First of all, it appears we the moderators will need to discuss the current
> state of the list with you. If we're to give an honest grade on the list
> quality, we'd say C- (C minus, or border-line). In our honest opinion, we
> would give D or F to the list quality, but since we have excellent
> contributors and since this list is one of the well-known channels of
> information on BrailleNote, we'll give a border-line grade. For the past few
> months, the quality of the posts coming through this list has (if I may say)
> declined - not just spam we've seen, but we've seen certain content that may
> not reflect the overall theme of the list. Because of this, I believe it's
> time that we think carefully about what we post on the list and see if what
> we're posting does really reflect what the list is for.
>
> Second, I'd like to say thanks to those who've helped us and criticized us
> on our conduct as admins. There were times when we went too far, and times
> we asked for your help in running this list and other events. In times of
> good and bad on this list, what helped us was your continued support.
>
> Third, this might be a bit hard to swallow but we (personally, I) feel you
> need to be informed: we have a report that a former list member will report
> I and Alex to Freelists staff over our conduct of the list. Furthermore,
> this report and its evidence suggests that the aim of our friend (won't say
> who) is to make us unsubscribe from this list in the hopes of ". helping us
> understand what this friend is going through .". Those who're involved with
> the thread in question knows that I and Alex did what we told that person:
> this person was banned to set an example to others, and the person asked
> about coming back here after several days. Then I advised this person to not
> come back due to the quality of the list. At the same time, I told this
> person that I forgive this person, but given the list rules, we have to
> remove this person (as said above). Our hope is for this problem to be
> resolved quietly. But in the event that we do need to step aside, we will
> (possibly, but it's becoming clearer that we need to soon).
>
> Lastly, speaking of resignation, it's becoming clearer that our time as
> moderators is numbered. As some of you know, I and Alex are moving onto
> other things, and in my case, I need time to study for my college courses.
> Thus, in the event that we do announce our resignation, we believe that
> there will be people who'll step up to take on the role of moderator and
> organize events such as chat for years to come. We should add that our
> decision wasn't light - we do understand what our decision (if final) means
> to the rest of the BrailleNote user community, HumanWare staff and potential
> users out there who're reading our email posts and archives, thus, like you,
> we feel uneasy about our decision. But please understand this decision as a
> way for both of us saying, "thank you and we love you for supporting two of
> your friends manage this list for the past few years."
>
> Thank you.
>
> In prayers,
>
> Joseph Lee
>
> University of California, Riverside
>
>
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