[brailleblaster] Re: BrailleBlaster error

  • From: "Keith Creasy" <kcreasy@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:00:38 -0400

We thought of that but if you have a file like "test file.xml" and a file 
called test_file.xml" and do something like create the document semantic action 
file with underlines you get a conflict. Yes, this is an edge case and we can 
probably live with it but it is a very crude solution. 

All that being said, looks like we'll live with the crude solution for now as 
this is really  not an issue or important to APH's workflow.

Keith



-----Original Message-----
From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 12:47 PM
To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: BrailleBlaster error

There are Java methods for replacing any  character with any other. 
Input and output files may have spaces. Use the replacemennt methods when 
needed.

John


John

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:27:50PM -0400, Brandon Roller wrote:
> Well in that case, BB should not open any file with spaces.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:05 PM, John J. Boyer < 
> john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Spaces are not allowed in the names of semantic-action files, 
> > configuration files or liblouis tables. Allowing them would 
> > introduce complications, especially in table lists and file lists. 
> > This should probably be stated in the documentation.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:17:12AM -0400, Keith Creasy wrote:
> > > Well, it's based on the book's file name but, yes, it can probably 
> > > be
> > avoided. It wouldn't be pretty though. Brandon, since this is a 
> > semantic action file that is tied to a document, and kept with that 
> > document, could we just name it something like "document.sem" or 
> > _document.sem"?
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John J. Boyer
> > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 10:53 AM
> > > To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [brailleblaster] Re: BrailleBlaster error
> > >
> > > How do the    spaces get in the name of the semantic-action file? When
> > > liblouisutdml was written it never occured to me that a 
> > > semantic-action
> > filename might have spaces. Wouldn't it be simpler to just avoid them?
> > > Handling them would require some code changes, and the name of the 
> > > file
> > would have to be enclosed in quotation marks.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 09:47:09AM -0400, Brandon Roller wrote:
> > > > Yes, spaces in the name of the semantic action file.  If a user 
> > > > edits the style of a file, for example making a paragraph a 
> > > > line, and saving the file then a semantic action file is created 
> > > > with the same name as the file, so that when the file is opened 
> > > > again in BB those style
> > changes are maintained.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:38 AM, John J. Boyer 
> > > > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I thought you were referring to an input file. Do you mean 
> > > > > spaces in
> > the
> > > > > name of a semantic-action file? When   would this happen? Or do you
> > mean
> > > > > spaces inside the file itself?
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 08:43:51AM -0400, Brandon Roller wrote:
> > > > > > John, please re-read my last email from Friday and include a 
> > > > > > semantic
> > > > > file
> > > > > > with the same name as your test file with spaces.  A 
> > > > > > semantic file with spaces seems to be causing the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:36 AM, John J. Boyer <
> > > > > john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I passed a file name containing a space to file2brl. It 
> > > > > > > worked
> > fine.
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > program calls lbu_translateFile with that file name. I 
> > > > > > > can't send the file because it is copyrighted, but all you 
> > > > > > > have to do is copy a file that you know works into a new 
> > > > > > > file whose name
> > contains a space.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 03:34:30PM -0400, Brandon Roller wrote:
> > > > > > > > TranslateFile is returning false and when you check the 
> > > > > > > > liblouisutdml
> > > > > > > logs
> > > > > > > > it is not including the entire semantic file.  It makes 
> > > > > > > > it through
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > entire document and fails after the last text node.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 3:27 PM, John J. Boyer <
> > > > > > > john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think there is some sort of interaction with 
> > > > > > > > > BrailleBlaster,
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > with the normalization algorithm. To really find out 
> > > > > > > > > if it is a liblouisutdml problem it would be necessary 
> > > > > > > > > to test the
> > > > > translateFile
> > > > > > > > > method directly, or better, to test the 
> > > > > > > > > lbu_translateFile
> > function.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:51:19PM -0400, Brandon 
> > > > > > > > > Roller
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > It seems to handle the file name, but when you 
> > > > > > > > > > change an
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > > > > different style to a new file, a new semantic action 
> > > > > > > > > > file is
> > > > > created
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > the same name as the file.  It doesn't seem to 
> > > > > > > > > > handle to the
> > > > > spaces
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > semantic action file name.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Vic Beckley <
> > > > > vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Brandon,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that was it. I took the spaces out of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > filename and it
> > > > > > > worked.
> > > > > > > > > Why
> > > > > > > > > > > would it work before I changed the styles and not 
> > > > > > > > > > > after if it
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > spaces. They were always there.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best regards from Ohio,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Vic
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > *From:* brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > > > > > > > > > > brailleblaster-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of 
> > > > > > > > > > > *Brandon
> > > > > Roller
> > > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, July 18, 2014 10:30 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > *To:* brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* [brailleblaster] Re: BrailleBlaster 
> > > > > > > > > > > error
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Does it have to do with the spaces in the file 
> > > > > > > > > > > name?  I don't
> > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > liblouisutdml handles spaces in a file name well.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Vic Beckley <
> > > > > > > vic.beckley3@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am getting an error when I try to apply a new 
> > > > > > > > > > > style in an XML
> > > > > > > > > document.
> > > > > > > > > > > Follow the below steps to reproduce it. I don’t 
> > > > > > > > > > > think the
> > > > > document
> > > > > > > > > matters
> > > > > > > > > > > but I have attached one that causes the error.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Open the attached file.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Make sure the cursor is in the first paragraph, 
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > From: line.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Press Control-L to bring up the style panel.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Press L to move to the line style and press enter 
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > apply it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Press Alt-Home to bring up the Braille preview.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You will see this error:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > An error has occurred.  Please check your original 
> > > > > > > > > > > document
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > OK
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If you press Alt-Home before changing the style, 
> > > > > > > > > > > then the
> > > > > Braille
> > > > > > > > > preview
> > > > > > > > > > > comes up just fine.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I am using the default nimas.cfg file. There is no 
> > > > > > > > > > > nimas.cfg
> > > > > in my
> > > > > > > > > > > personal data folder.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Best regards from Ohio,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Vic
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer 
> > > > > > > > > Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > > > > > > > > http://www.abilitiessoft.com Madison, Wisconsin USA 
> > > > > > > > > Developing software for people with disabilities
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer 
> > > > > > > Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > > > > > > http://www.abilitiessoft.com Madison, Wisconsin USA 
> > > > > > > Developing software for people with disabilities
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer 
> > > > > Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > > > > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > > > > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > > > > Developing software for people with disabilities
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc.
> > > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > > Developing software for people with disabilities
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, 
> > Inc.
> > http://www.abilitiessoft.com
> > Madison, Wisconsin USA
> > Developing software for people with disabilities
> >
> >
> >

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John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities




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