Ok, That helps a bit. What kind of sea shell? I have a salt water fish tank and wonder what they are. Could it be one for my tank? Shannon ----- Original Message ----- From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > A certain family of Sea shells > > At 10:29 AM 1/27/2009, you wrote: > >Guido, > >Now you have peaked my interest. And it does give me a valid Book > >Share question. Are there any Book Share books that will tell me > >what you are talking about???? Smile I already have added some of > >these words to my big word dictionary. Grin > >What is this thing you are talking about? > >Shannon B. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>Guido Corona > >To: <mailto:bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:12 PM > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > > > > > >Thank you Monica, if you ever became infatuated as I am with the > >Cowrie genus, please scan and submit to Bookshare > > > >The Living Cowries -- by C. M. Burgess > > > >It is, in fact, a somewhat dated if excellent book on the subject. > >Yet, passionate arguments on the problem of regional population > >variants versus subspeciation in the all too variable C. arabicula. > >-- while fascinating and valuable amongst evolutionary biologists > >and malacologists -- would exceed the scope of topical discussions > >on this board. Besides, discussion of certain details of Cowrie > >anatomy may even be found offensive to the sensitivities of some non > >initiates. > > > >(smiles!) > > > >G. > > > > > > > > > >Guido Dante Corona > >IBM Research, > >Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > >Austin Tx. > >Phone: (512) 286-5794 > >Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > >Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able > > > >'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept' > > Ansel Adams > > > > > > > >Monica Willyard > >Sent by: > > > >01/23/2009 07:51 PM > >Please respond to > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >To > ><bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >cc > >Subject > >[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > > > > > > > > > > > >Guido, thanks for giving me something to smile about. Your > >explanation wonderfully surpasses anything I might have written. > > > >Monica Willyard > >"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker > > > > > >---------- > > > >From: Guido Corona [<mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx] > >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:49 PM > >To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > > > > > >Roger, the only issue is that the entire topic is out of bound to > >the subject of this list. In the same way, my opinions on matters > >that may be of passionate interest to me, such as the geographic > >distribution and speciation of Cyprea arabicula, whether or not > >zapping a conductor with 1 million volts in a Tessla device can be > >deemed Quantum Tunnelling, or the contestation of the age of the > >cretacean Iridium boundary, are all irrelevant to this > >board. Whether or not I can find friendly or opposing views to my > >extremely strong opinions on such topics, I would still be out of > >order, unless I were to ask bookshare-related questions such as. . . > > > >Are there bookshare books that can help me to research patterns of > >speciation in isolated populations of C. arabicula? > > > >Saluti, Guido > > > > > > > >Guido Dante Corona > >IBM Research, > >Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC) > >Austin Tx. > >Phone: (512) 286-5794 > >Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx > >Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able > > > >'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept' > > Ansel Adams > > > >Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx > >Sent by: > > > >01/23/2009 03:17 PM > > > > > >Please respond to > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > >To > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >cc > > > >Subject > >[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Believe it or not, people who have different opinions than yours are > >not necessarily angry and bitter. If you think you have gotten to > >know an imaginary being you might have a hard time understanding > >that, but it is true. I think you will also find it much more > >liberating to form your opinions by basing them on objective reality > >rather than unfounded assumptions. That way you will not presume to > >know anything about another person's experiences without even > >knowing that person. Believe me, seeking and finding truth is an > >extremely gratifying thing to do and has to beat just claiming > >something to be the truth without even trying to test it against reality. > > > >table with 2 columns and 6 rows > >Subj: > >[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > >Date: > >1/23/2009 1:27:04 PM Eastern Standard Time > >From: > >shirleytracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Reply-to: > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Sent from the Internet > >(Details) > >table end > > > >Roger, > > > >I'm sorry that you have had such a bad experience with religion > >that you have become angry and bitter. As for me, coming to know God > >was what freed me > >from the confines of "Religion." You see, I believe there is a big > >difference. Now, if you were not so angry, you would not have > >responded to the notice > >about the Christian book thing. I didn't respond to a notice about > >fantasy books, even though I'm not particularly interested in them. > > > >Your quick response tells me you're still hurting--and for that I am > >really sorry. > > > >Shirley > > > >P.S. I didn't remove my name from the list because others of you out > >there have had some interesting things to say. I seldom jump in, but > >I am learning > >a lot > > > >block quote > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: > >Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx > > > >To: > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:50 AM > > > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > > > >Your point is quite legitimate. It is interesting that those who > >object to the pot being stirred are at the same time vigorously > >stirring the pot. It is > >as simple as this. If I am looking at a message that I have a > >response to then, like anyone else, I respond to it. In the process > >of making those responses > >I am bound to express my opinions. If you don't like those opinions > >-- and I am using the universal you here -- then, really, honestly, > >think about it, > >that really is just tough shit. The plain fact is that there are a > >lot of people in this world whose opinions you are not going to like > >and if you open > >your mind enough to accept that then I guarantee that you will be a > >lot happier. Opening your mind may run counter to what you have been > >taught in church, > >but churches, despite what they might say, are in the business of > >controlling you, not ensuring your personal happiness. I will also > >point out that even > >though I have never been a believer myself I have known any number > >of atheists who were former religionists and their stories are very > >similar. The story > >is always one of accumulating doubts and discomfort with their > >upbringing and that is usually rather sad, but the part where they > >put their upbringing > >behind them and finally break with religion is an entirely different > >matter. They always describe it as the most liberating experience in > >their lives and > >one of the most liberating parts is that they can finally disagree > >with others without feeling a self destructive gnawing hatred > >inside. It still remains, > >though, that if you have not had that liberating experience and it > >upsets you so much to hear an opinion that is different from your > >own you can minimize > >exposure to those opinions by not denigrating them and thereby > >provoking the person with the different opinion to respond to you. > > > >table with 2 columns and 6 rows > >Subj: > >[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > >Date: > >1/23/2009 6:09:00 AM Eastern Standard Time > >From: > >dhubb100@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >Reply-to: > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Sent from the Internet > >(Details) > >table end > > > >I'mnew to thislist but it seems to me that if people don't react the pot in > >effect hasn't been stired. And, this really doesn't help any of us who need > >help or want to discuss Bookshare right? > > > >-Diane > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:18 PM > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile > > > > > It is interesting, isn't it? Most discussion lists get a person who > > > trolls, sooner or later. Usually the list manager puts a troll on > > > moderate so that they don't get the opportunity to constantly stir up the > > > pot. Since Bookshare hasn't ever assigned an active list manager to this > > > list, as far as I've ever seen, the only way left for the list members to > > > handle a troll is to ignore the posts made by that individual every time > > > they begin trolling. smile. > > > > > > Judy s. > > > > > > Cindy Rosenthal wrote: > > >> Thanks, Judy. That's really interesting. I'd never > > >> heard that term before. > > >> smile > > >> > > >> Cindy > > >> > > >> --- "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Cindy, Sharon and Patti, Roger is trolling every > > >>> time someone posts regarding Christianity, and has done so since > > >>> he came on the list. > > >>> > > >>> If you're not familiar with the term "troll" or > > >>> "internet troll," here's a definition from Wikipedia: > > >>> > > >>> "An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet > > >>> slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or > > >>> off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online > > >>> discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking > > >>> other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt > > >>> normal on-topic discussion" > > >>> > > >>> The best way to handle trolling (again I'll quote > > >>> from Wikipedia, as they put it well) is simple: "Do not feed the > > >>> troll." You'll find that abbreviated as "D-N-F-T" or "D-F-T-T" in > > >>> Internet slang. > > >>> > > >>> Put simply: you'll drive yourself crazy by getting > > >>> sucked into a discussion with someone who is trolling. Consider > > >>> just ignoring a troll's posts when he or she is trolling. Provoking a > > >>> response is what a troll enjoys. Roger himself has posted > > >>> here that he loves to stir things up just for the fun he gets out > > >>> of it. grin. > > >>> > > >>> Judy s. > > >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank Email to > > >>> > > >>> bookshare-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> Put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > >>> Subject line. 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