[bookshare-discuss] Re: OT sea shells
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:53 -0800 (PST)
But some things are interesting and useful to others,
too. I think it's o.k. to keep discussions about all
sorts of things on lists unless someone objects and
asks that they be taken offlist, at which point they
can be. I thought I knew what a cowrie was, and you
confirmed it for me, but I did not know that they
could be in a salt-water fish tank, though that does
make sense--and that's interesting to me. Who knows
when one of my relatives might have one and would like
that information.
Cindy
--- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes, but we will take this offline. . . getting out
> of scope.
>
> Guido
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
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> 'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a
> fuzzy concept'
> Ansel Adams
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> shannon
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> Ok, That helps a bit. What kind of sea shell? I have
> a salt water fish
> tank
> and wonder what they are. Could it be one for my
> tank?
> Shannon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:57 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed
> The Troll - smile
>
>
> > A certain family of Sea shells
> >
> > At 10:29 AM 1/27/2009, you wrote:
> > >Guido,
> > >Now you have peaked my interest. And it does give
> me a valid Book
> > >Share question. Are there any Book Share books
> that will tell me
> > >what you are talking about???? Smile I already
> have added some of
> > >these words to my big word dictionary. Grin
> > >What is this thing you are talking about?
> > >Shannon B.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>Guido Corona
> > >To:
>
<mailto:bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:12 PM
> > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't
> Feed The Troll - smile
> > >
> > >
> > >Thank you Monica, if you ever became infatuated
> as I am with the
> > >Cowrie genus, please scan and submit to
> Bookshare
> > >
> > >The Living Cowries -- by C. M. Burgess
> > >
> > >It is, in fact, a somewhat dated if excellent
> book on the subject.
> > >Yet, passionate arguments on the problem of
> regional population
> > >variants versus subspeciation in the all too
> variable C. arabicula.
> > >-- while fascinating and valuable amongst
> evolutionary biologists
> > >and malacologists -- would exceed the scope of
> topical discussions
> > >on this board. Besides, discussion of certain
> details of Cowrie
> > >anatomy may even be found offensive to the
> sensitivities of some non
> > >initiates.
> > >
> > >(smiles!)
> > >
> > >G.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Guido Dante Corona
> > >IBM Research,
> > >Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > >Austin Tx.
> > >Phone: (512) 286-5794
> > >Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Web:
> <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able
> > >
> > >'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a
> fuzzy concept'
> > > Ansel Adams
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Monica Willyard
> > >Sent by:
> > >
> > >01/23/2009 07:51 PM
> > >Please respond to
> > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >To
> > ><bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >cc
> > >Subject
> > >[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The
> Troll - smile
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Guido, thanks for giving me something to smile
> about. Your
> > >explanation wonderfully surpasses anything I
> might have written.
> > >
> > >Monica Willyard
> > >"The best way to predict the future is to create
> it." -- Peter Drucker
> > >
> > >
> > >----------
> > >
> > >From: Guido Corona
> [<mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:49 PM
> > >To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't
> Feed The Troll - smile
> > >
> > >
> > >Roger, the only issue is that the entire topic
> is out of bound to
> > >the subject of this list. In the same way, my
> opinions on matters
> > >that may be of passionate interest to me, such as
> the geographic
> > >distribution and speciation of Cyprea arabicula,
> whether or not
> > >zapping a conductor with 1 million volts in a
> Tessla device can be
> > >deemed Quantum Tunnelling, or the contestation
> of the age of the
> > >cretacean Iridium boundary, are all irrelevant to
> this
> > >board. Whether or not I can find friendly or
> opposing views to my
> > >extremely strong opinions on such topics, I would
> still be out of
> > >order, unless I were to ask bookshare-related
> questions such as. . .
> > >
> > >Are there bookshare books that can help me to
> research patterns of
> > >speciation in isolated populations of C.
> arabicula?
> > >
> > >Saluti, Guido
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Guido Dante Corona
> > >IBM Research,
> > >Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > >Austin Tx.
> > >Phone: (512) 286-5794
> > >Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Web:
> <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able
> > >
> > >'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a
> fuzzy concept'
> > > Ansel Adams
> > >
> > >Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> > >Sent by:
> > >
> > >01/23/2009 03:17 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >Please respond to
> > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >To
> > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >cc
> > >
> > >Subject
> > >[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The
> Troll - smile
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Believe it or not, people who have different
> opinions than yours are
> > >not necessarily angry and bitter. If you think
> you have gotten to
> > >know an imaginary being you might have a hard
> time understanding
> > >that, but it is true. I think you will also find
> it much more
> > >liberating to form your opinions by basing them
> on objective reality
> > >rather than unfounded assumptions. That way you
> will not presume to
> > >know anything about another person's experiences
> without even
> > >knowing that person. Believe me, seeking and
> finding truth is an
> > >extremely gratifying thing to do and has to beat
> just claiming
> > >something to be the truth without even trying to
> test it against
> reality.
> > >
> > >table with 2 columns and 6 rows
> > >Subj:
> > >[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The
> Troll - smile
> > >Date:
> > >1/23/2009 1:27:04 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > >From:
> > >shirleytracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Reply-to:
> > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To:
> > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Sent from the Internet
> > >(Details)
> > >table end
> > >
> > >Roger,
> > >
> > >I'm sorry that you have had such a bad
> experience with religion
> > >that you have become angry and bitter. As for me,
> coming to know God
> > >was what freed me
> > >from the confines of "Religion." You see, I
> believe there is a big
> > >difference. Now, if you were not so angry, you
> would not have
> > >responded to the notice
> > >about the Christian book thing. I didn't respond
> to a notice about
> > >fantasy books, even though I'm not particularly
> interested in them.
> > >
> > >Your quick response tells me you're still
> hurting--and for that I am
> > >really sorry.
> > >
> > >Shirley
> > >
> > >P.S. I didn't remove my name from the list
> because others of you out
> > >there have had some interesting things to say. I
> seldom jump in, but
> > >I am learning
> > >a lot
> > >
> > >block quote
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >From:
> > >Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> > >
> > >To:
> > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:50 AM
> > >
> > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't
> Feed The Troll - smile
> > >
> > >Your point is quite legitimate. It is interesting
> that those who
> > >object to the pot being stirred are at the same
> time vigorously
> > >stirring the pot. It is
> > >as simple as this. If I am looking at a message
> that I have a
> > >response to then, like anyone else, I respond to
> it. In the process
> > >of making those responses
> > >I am bound to express my opinions. If you don't
> like those opinions
> > >-- and I am using the universal you here -- then,
> really, honestly,
> > >think about it,
> > >that really is just tough shit. The plain fact is
> that there are a
> > >lot of people in this world whose opinions you
> are not going to like
> > >and if you open
> > >your mind enough to accept that then I guarantee
> that you will be a
> > >lot happier. Opening your mind may run counter to
> what you have been
> > >taught in church,
> > >but churches, despite what they might say, are in
> the business of
> > >controlling you, not ensuring your personal
> happiness. I will also
> > >point out that even
> > >though I have never been a believer myself I have
> known any number
> > >of atheists who were former religionists and
> their stories are very
> > >similar. The story
> > >is always one of accumulating doubts and
> discomfort with their
> > >upbringing and that is usually rather sad, but
> the part where they
> > >put their upbringing
> > >behind them and finally break with religion is an
> entirely different
> > >matter. They always describe it as the most
> liberating experience in
> > >their lives and
> > >one of the most liberating parts is that they can
> finally disagree
> > >with others without feeling a self destructive
> gnawing hatred
> > >inside. It still remains,
> > >though, that if you have not had that liberating
> experience and it
> > >upsets you so much to hear an opinion that is
> different from your
> > >own you can minimize
> > >exposure to those opinions by not denigrating
> them and thereby
> > >provoking the person with the different opinion
> to respond to you.
> > >
> > >table with 2 columns and 6 rows
> > >Subj:
> > >[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The
> Troll - smile
> > >Date:
> > >1/23/2009 6:09:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
> > >From:
> > >dhubb100@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Reply-to:
> > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To:
> > >bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Sent from the Internet
> > >(Details)
> > >table end
> > >
> > >I'mnew to thislist but it seems to me that if
> people don't react the
> pot
> in
> > >effect hasn't been stired. And, this really
> doesn't help any of us who
> need
> > >help or want to discuss Bookshare right?
> > >
> > >-Diane
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:18 PM
> > >Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't
> Feed The Troll - smile
> > >
> > > > It is interesting, isn't it? Most discussion
> lists get a person who
> > > > trolls, sooner or later. Usually the list
> manager puts a troll on
> > > > moderate so that they don't get the
> opportunity to constantly stir
> up
> the
> > > > pot. Since Bookshare hasn't ever assigned an
> active list manager to
> this
> > > > list, as far as I've ever seen, the only way
> left for the list
> members
> to
> > > > handle a troll is to ignore the posts made by
> that individual every
> time
> > > > they begin trolling. smile.
> > > >
> > > > Judy s.
> > > >
> > > > Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
> > > >> Thanks, Judy. That's really interesting. I'd
> never
> > > >> heard that term before.
> > > >> smile
> > > >>
> > > >> Cindy
> > > >>
> > > >> --- "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Cindy, Sharon and Patti, Roger is trolling
> every
> > > >>> time someone posts regarding Christianity,
> and has done so since
> > > >>> he came on the list.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you're not familiar with the term "troll"
> or
> > > >>> "internet troll," here's a definition from
> Wikipedia:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "An Internet troll, or simply troll in
> Internet
> > > >>> slang, is someone who posts controversial,
> inflammatory,
> irrelevant
> or
> > > >>> off-topic messages in an online community,
> such as an online
> > > >>> discussion forum or chat room, with the
> intention of provoking
> > > >>> other users into an emotional response or to
> generally disrupt
> > > >>> normal on-topic discussion"
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The best way to handle trolling (again I'll
> quote
> > > >>> from Wikipedia, as they put it well) is
> simple: "Do not feed the
> > > >>> troll." You'll find that abbreviated as
> "D-N-F-T" or "D-F-T-T" in
> > > >>> Internet slang.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Put simply: you'll drive yourself crazy by
> getting
> > > >>> sucked into a discussion with someone who is
> trolling. Consider
> > > >>> just ignoring a troll's posts when he or she
> is trolling.
> Provoking
> a
> > > >>> response is what a troll enjoys. Roger
> himself has posted
> > > >>> here that he loves to stir things up just
> for the fun he gets out
> > > >>> of it. grin.
> > > >>>
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