Michael: You also need to leave out any equals (=3D) signs. >>> micmey@xxxxxxxxxxx 08/20/04 08:49AM >>> Hi, list members. Larry, I have tried to open the first link mentioned in your e-mail to install the first beta and got the message that the page could not be found, etc., etc. I understand that I need to leave out the number 20 is that correct? I also haven't seen my answers to my first e-mail. Thank you. Michael