Hi All, I had a look at this, and I thought it worked very well, even running it from CD. I am going to install it on another box. All the best -- Andrew Secrets That We Keep Audio Book by David Caldwell:- http://www.secretsthatwekeep.com/mainindex.php?code=006 _____ From: blindopensource-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindopensource-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Greer Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:03 AM To: blindopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [blindopensource] Re: the blind and linux Actually it will but you will have to do a few things without speech first. When you put in the ubuntu cd and restart your computer, the ubuntu menu screen will load. You will know when this has happened because the cd will spin down. After it does that, press f5 to bring up the accessibility options. To select the screen reader from the menu press 3 and then enter. It will then drop you back on the ubuntu option screen and all you need to do is press enter and let linux load. Sometimes however, even after selecting the screen reader at boot, Orca still wont start. If this happens, once the desktop is loaded and ready to go, you can press alt + f2 to bring up a run box, type in orca and press enter. Once you get the screen reader talking it will ask you to do some first time configuration to it. After that, it asks you to log out and then log back in for the changes to take effect. After that though, each time you want to start orca you should only need to bring up the run box with f2, type orca and press enter. lol as I said linux is a little fiddly at first but once you get the hang of things it becomes second nature, almost. JohnPG search for all of your Jaws scripts at http://www.blindcrawler.com/ Also be sure to check out Blind Crawler's Legend of the Green Dragon server at http://www.blindcrawler.com/lotg/ There will be more to come from Blind Crawler very soon. Administrator: John Greer Blind Crawler.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah <mailto:marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> To: blindopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: [blindopensource] Re: the blind and linux Ah. I might try that. will it load the screen reader automatically I don't have enough hard drive space to run it from the cd though. SA&G ----- Original Message ----- From: Mohammed <mailto:mohammed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Al-shar' To: blindopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: [blindopensource] Re: the blind and linux hi Sara and list, Linux and open source software means freedom in both senses. freedom as in free beer, and freedom as a human longing. as such, Linux is an attractive choice for the blind Especially when we know how ridiculously expensive windows based screen readers are. I have used ubuntu with orca, and it was such a lovely experience. I still do when my time permits. of course, since the OS and Orca are both open source, it means anyone with enough programming knowledge can contribute to its development. you can fix something if you don't like how it works, and you don't have to wait for anyone to fix it in the next release. something that may look attractive to you and may encourage any new user to try Linux is to download the iso image of say the live cd of ubuntu, at www.ubuntu .com, burn it to a cd, and just let your pc boot from that cd into a complete Linux system without having to install it. of course, you can always install ubuntu later from that same cd if you decide that Linux is good enough. of course, me and other list members can assist along the way. sadly though, I can't use Linux on daily basis since my work requires working under windows environment. All the best, Mohammed Al-shar' skype: world.of.wonders msn: msharo@xxxxxxxxxxxx aim: mohammed020476 www.wowonders.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah <mailto:marrie12@xxxxxxxxx> To: Blind Open Source list <mailto:blindopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: [blindopensource] the blind and linux Hey all, I hope this list is still alive but what do you all think about using linux as a blind person? I don't and probably won't but I am curious. Sarah Alawami MSN: chellist@xxxxxxxxxxx skype: marrie1 Website; www.marrie.org To check out my podcast go to http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast check out http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org 98% of all statistics is useless ! The holidays are apon us. visit http://shop.marrie.org for great bargains!