I hope they fixed Chris Hedges latest book when I reported that it was all
messed up and barely readable. It was a publisher's copy, but I never heard
back from them. I did get through the book, even with its difficulties.
There must have been something wrong with the electronic files or with the
program that translated them into daisy audio. It is Wages of Rebellion.
It's actually a collection of many of his writing that I'd already seen on
the internet which is probably why I could manage to read it..
Miriam
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Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 2:28 PM
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I just made a quality report on one of the copies. In the next few days one
should either be removed or both will remain and that would mean that I am
misunderstanding something. In the past when I have made a quality report
they have always gotten back to me to tell me how they would resolve the
problem, so if I am misunderstanding something I suppose I will be informed
as to what it is that I am misunderstanding.
By the way, even though the publishers are not checked up on as carefully as
volunteers are the publishers do frequently submit things that do not belong
on Bookshare. Sometimes--and Penguin is especially guilty of this--the
publisher will submit an ebook that is very very short and turns out to be
nothing but advertising for other books.
Bookshare does not want these ads in their collection and when I have found
them and reported them in the past they were promptly removed.
On 5/13/2016 2:15 PM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted sender rogerbailey81 for
DMARC) wrote:
When there is a volunteer produced book on Bookshare and a publisher
contributes the book the volunteer copy is removed. Bookshare does,
however, allow for different editions being treated as different books
. I thought that was the case this time because I thought when I
looked at the two different copies before that they had different
publishers. I must have been inattentive the time I looked at the
first one and when I looked at the second one I remembered the
publisher as a different publisher. If that had been the case it would
almost certainly have meant that they had been published in different
countries with different imprints. However, I just went back to the
two listings to check and, indeed, they do have the same publisher and
the ISBN matches too. I don't think that this usually happens at
Bookshare and they might want it reported so that they can remove one.
Both copies are publisher submitted copies, so I would guess that the
publisher submitted both accidentally. Bookshare does a lot of
checking up on volunteer submissions to catch, among other things,
duplicates. They do not do that much checking on the publisher
submitted books though. The publishers, for one thing, submit
electronic files of what is transmitted to their printing presses and
so all the formatting, proofreading, and copy editing has already been
done. Also the publishers are given a lot of leeway and do not have to
adhere to the strict guidelines that volunteers do. That is because
the publishers submit books on a voluntary basis and do not get a lot
out of it other than some public relations value. If you hit them with
too many restrictions they might just say forget it and quit
submitting. Whatever the case, though, on closer examination I do
believe that these two copies are identical. I can't say that it
really matters too much because with all the books that Bookshare has
a duplicate will not take up a whole lot of bandwidth, but I will
report this to them and let them do what they want with the information.
On 5/13/2016 12:00 AM, Paul Wick wrote:
Miriam,
Bookshare Will often have two or sometimes three versions of the same
book; this is usually because one of the books has scanning errors,
or one copy was provided by volunteers, and another by the publisher
itself. They get a lot of books Direct from publishers.
Hope this helps,
Paul
Sent from my iPhone
On May 12, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Miriam Vieni
<miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So I just looked on Bookshare and it just looks like the book is
listed twice with precisely the same description. It doesn't give
the publisher in either description that I've read.
Miriam
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From: Miriam Vieni [mailto:miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:24 PM
To: 'blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [blind-democracy] Re: Listen Liberal
I wonder why there are 2 editions. The book is very new. When it
first came out, Bookshare didn't have it and Deborah thought she
would have to scan it.
She was waiting for a few weeks to see if it appeared. Then I looked
when I saw it mentioned in another article. It was there. I
downloaded it, and told Deborah that it was there So it can't be
that one is newer than the other.
Miriam
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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 9:21 PM
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The two copies appear to be different editions.
On 5/12/2016 4:19 PM, Martian.Lady wrote:
Hi
I just downloaded this book from Book share.
I have a question. Why are there 2 listings for this book when I
did a search for it on Book Share?
I think my Stream is one of the best things I bought. Probably next
to the computer.
Marsha
