Hi Rod, OK, I get it now. So fixed field widths for all fields is just what you want? Will that work for those using a screen magnifier as well or will they complain since (I assume) panning would be required. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Roderick Macdonald To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 5:59 PM Subject: [blind-chess] Sample Ladder Baseline Information Hi Richard, There is really no standard length for a braille line. For books on paper it is typically 40 characters, but not always. However, what you refer to is more the length of a line as read by a braille display or a braille notetaker. Again, there is no standard. Display line lenght can be whatever - 18, 20, 32, 40, 65 or 80 characters, depending on how rich somebody is. Notetakers are typically 18, 20, 32 or 40 characters per line. But not to fuss: all braille displays/notetakers I have ever seen have keys (or keystrokes) that will shift the currently-displayed content left or right ("panning") or move up or down to the next line. It is usually the screen reader (Jaws, for example) that controls what is on the display, so since you are familiar with Jaws, just do your planning with that in mind. It is just that if information lines up in columns on the screen, a braille display can move a line down and find the same field at the same location on the display, rather than the user having to read the line to get to the same column as in the previous line. Rod