[bksvol-discuss] Re: volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent Marks)
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:11:10 -0700
Hi Everyone,
Please hold off on creating a list of scanners and proofreaders that is
publically available. Many people prefer to keep their e-mail addresses
more private than that.
I'll talk with other staff this week and see what we can do about providing
that kind of list with permission of all involved.
Mayrie
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:11 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] volunteers : was: A Plan for More Work (was
Acdcent Marks)
I agree with Jackie that that would be a good idea. Years ago I could have
compiled such a list for you but I think the lists from which I wold get the
names are long gone.I can check my trash folder, though.
If people want to send me their names and what category they fall into,
i.e., proofers, image-describers0 and/or scanners, (This latter group
would be the people who have access to and are interested in locating books
not
already in the collection, smile (no one is likely to scan books already in
the collection; and some may not want to scan books that might be replaced
by PQ books.
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ixchel, Jackie" <starsandhearts2@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:40 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent Marks)
>
> Hi Sandy,
> I think that your suggestion is excellent! I think that the lists of
> volunteers wouldn't be that hard to maintain and that it would help
> get more books on the checkout page and more on the site for readers.
>
> On 6/3/12, Sandi Ryan <sjryan2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Cindy,
>>
>> I've been scanning for a year, but I'm planning to speed things
> up. And I
>> didn't just mean proofreaders should work with me, though I'm
> always open to
>> a good idea. I think we all need to form partnerships and put
>> everyone to work who wants to work!
>>
>> I have a suggestion for Bookshare staff, too. it would be useful to
>> have
> on
>> the volunteer page lists of proofers and lists of scanners, with
>> people who do both listed in both lists. It might also be useful to
>> list separately volunteers who have access to and are interested in
>> locating books not already in the collection. And of course the image
describers.
>>
>> Sorry, I was known in my job as a detail person (not always fondly).
>> I
> just
>> think these things could help all volunteers, no matter how much
>> time we have to devote, work efficiently and well.
>>
>> Sandi
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Cindy
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:59 PM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent
>> Marks)
>>
>>
>> Sandi, I'm delighted to hear that you're going to be scanning!
> That seems
>> to be where the need is at the moment. big smile
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
>> From: Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:42 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent
>> Marks)
>>
>>
>> Hi, Jackie, I feel I'm getting more contacts so I'll have
> something to
>> read to keep me out of mischief. I prefer proofreading fiction
>> myself
>> because I don't have an Optacon which might allow me to check
>> for
>> accuracy and as I said I read every word in a book and of course
>> I like
>> to correspond with the submitter in case I have questions.
>> Regards, Kim
>> Friedman.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Ixchel, Jackie
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 10:46 AM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Plan for More Work (was Acdcent
>> Marks)
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I would also like to proof for whoever needs it. I like reading
>> mystery,
>> fantacy, fiction and historical fiction. I like reading a lot
>> and
>> sometimes I am a little OCD when I proof. :) Now that summer is
>> coming I
>> will have a lot of time to proof! This helps me both read and
>> acquire
>> credits so that later I can donate them since I won't need them
>> for
> a
>> while. Jackie
>>
>> On 6/3/12, Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi, Sandi, well I like to proofread fiction with the exception
>> of
>> > horror. I've read some science fiction, I've done some
> anthologies
>> > (three), and I seem to be in a historical fiction or
>> historical
>> > mystery niche right now. I like mysteries, fantasy, romance, etc.
> I
>> > wouldn't mind doing something which makes me laugh. I
> don't think I'd
>>
>> > want to do something horribly violent (especially if it's
>> gratuitous).
>>
>> > As for language, I don't like to use strong language, but if I
> find
>> > strong language in a book (you know the words) I will
>> proofread what's
>>
>> > there. With regard to non-fiction, I can't say I've done
> much of
>> that,
>>
>> > that is, textbooks, books with charts and tables, etc. I
> haven't done
>>
>> > poetry or cookbooks (this last would be really hard because I
>> wouldn't
>>
>> > be able to check for accuracy. As for my procedure, if I
>> proofread
> a
>> > book for you, you can count on me reading every word and also
>> > corresponding with you should I have text questions. I don't
> have
>> your
>>
>> > email address but I wouldn't mind doing stuff for you if I
> found it
>> > interesting. If you wish to judge what I've done, you can find
> some
>> > stuff I have proofread and give it a look. Regards, Kim Friedman.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Sandi
> Ryan
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 10:05 AM
>> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Plan for More Work (was
>> Acdcent
>> Marks)
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Everyone,
>> >
>> > I just saw Lissi's great e-mail on more work for everyone, and
> here's
>>
>> > a plan I think could work for that:
>> >
>> > When I came on board a year ago, I thought I was going to be a
>> > proofer. I mean, I'm blind, and that seemed like the best way
> for a
>> > blind person to go.
>> > However, I immediately met Valerie Maples and Lissi, and they
>> encouraged
>> > me
>> > to try scanning. Well, that made sense to me, because I'd
> been
>> scanning
>> >
>> > books for nearly as long as scanners had been accessible. I
>> > determined,
>> >
>> > since I love scanning, to be one of Bookshare's best scanners,
> and to
>>
>> > work with proofreaders who actually read the books I scanned
>> and would
>>
>> > put the
>> > very best book possible into the collection.
>> >
>> > The way I've gotten enough work to keep me busy is to tell
> Valerie
>> and
>>
>> > Lissi when I'm running short, and to let the list know that I
> have a
>> > library card
>> > from my local library which gives me access to books
>> throughout
> the
>> > country.
>> > Each one costs $1, which I gladly pay for the privilege of
> scanning
>> it
>> > into
>> > the Bookshare collection. I turn in only Excellent scans, so
>> even
> a
>> new
>> >
>> > proofreader should be able to read through the book and make
>> only
> a
>> > few changes. I do insist that you read the entire book, though.
>> >
>> > The other thing proofreaders and potential proofreaders can do
>> to help
>>
>> > expand the list are the things Lissi and Valerie have
> done--research
>> > books. Find those you'd like to proof that aren't in the
> collection,
>> > and let a scanner know you're interested. But when you want a
> book
>> > scannd, we need to
>> > know the exact title, exact author's name, ISBN, and
> publication
>> date.
>> > That
>> > saves ever so much research time for us. We'll scan faster if
> you
>> find
>> > and
>> > send us copies of the books--but if you can't--I know many of
> us are
>> > working
>> > with zero budgets--let us get them from ILL or some other
> means--then
>> > we're
>> > working together. I have come up with maybe ten books to
>> scan,
> but I
>> > work
>> > with wonderful proofers who are constantly looking for books
>> for
> me
>> to
>> > scan.
>> >
>> > Let's all team up and put lots of really good volunteer books
> in the
>> > collection. When you see a HOLD, respect it. When you find a
> book
>> > you'd like, put it on the wish list, or contact someone you
> know
>> scans
>>
>> > and ask
>> >
>> > them to scan it and have you proof it. Then you'll have your
> own
>> > holds.
>> >
>> > There are plenty of books in the world to be done by
>> volunteers.
> But
>>
>> > everyone needs to take an active role in locating, scanning
>> and
>> > proofreading. Find your niche, and work as hard as you
>> choose.
> And
>> > welcome aboard to new people. I'm amazed at how wonderful
> this job
>> > still is more
>> > than a year down the road!
>> >
>> > Sandi
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:18 PM
>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks
>> >
>> >
>> >> Dear Kim and Booksharian Friends,
>> >>
>> >> Kim, Since I'm reading this thread out of order, you may
> have
>> already
>>
>> >> had this suggestion. To produce an I umlaut I delete the i,
> and
>> press
>>
>> >> the control and shift down together. As I hold them, I type
> the
>> colon
>>
>> >> Then
>> >
>> >> release all three keys and type i. when you backspace your
>> > screenreader
>> >> should say i umlaut. This is with Word 2003. Soon I'll
> have to make
>> > the
>> >> leap to a more updated word, oh dread!
>> >>
>> >> Good luck!
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks to Sandi, and to those of you who advised her
> about how
>> >> to
>> >
>> >> get
>> >> Strawberry Season back for me. Thank you to the volunteer,
> too, who
>> >> released it. I've proofed Books one and two in this
> wonderful
>> trilogy
>> > and
>> >> had bought books for Sandi to scan and for me to proof the
> third
>> >> book.
>> >
>> >> I'll be getting on it tomorrow once I've checked in
> Mr. Monk on
>> > Patrol,
>> >> from a wonderful scan done by Jamie. Just 30 pages to go.
>> >>
>> >> Bookshare has the Monk novels and they are laugh out loud
> funny. I
>> >> hope many of you will give them a try. They'll brighten
> your reading
>> > landscape.
>> >> Jamie has been consistently faithful seeing that they have
> been
>> added
>> > to
>> >> the collection. She's a marvel of generosity, scanning
> many books
>> and
>>
>> >> putting holds on the ones she knows some of us care deeply
> about.
>> >>
>> >> As for Island Wife, The Wind From the Hills and The
>> Strawberry
>> >> Season,
>> >
>> >> by
>> >> Jessica Sterling, they are fabulous historical romances with
> deep
>> >> character study and very concerned with family dynamics set
>> in
> the
>> >> Scottish Hebrides near the end of the nineteenth century.
>> They
> are
>> >> intelligently written and the type of series you can lose
> yourself
>> >> in.
>> >
>> >> They are not formulaic, pot boiler, cookie cutter romances.
> The
>> > transcend
>> >> the genre in general.
>> >>
>> >> I fear we have a shortage of scanners. It takes much more
>> work
>> >> tracking down books that aren't in the collection yet, and
> we all
>> >> have to be willing to do the work knowing it may be replaced
> by PQ
>> >> versions of
>> > our
>> >> books, but I love the process of making a proof as error free
> as I
>> > can,
>> >> love the reading of the book as I proof and therefore still
> feel my
>> >> efforts were worthwhile even when a book I've worked on is
> replaced,
>>
>> >> though occasionally, the volunteer copy has better navigation
> and
>> > other
>> >> perks for Bookshare readers than the PQ books.
>> >>
>> >> I've never seen the check out list as short as it is now.
> Is it
>> >> because Bookshare is emphasizing textbooks and working harder
> at
>> >> training volunteers who can describe graphics? Since we blind
>> readers
>>
>> >> were so active in helping Bookshare during its start up
>> years,
> it's
>> >> sad to see
>> > our
>> >> role diminishing.
>> >>
>> >> Since I love hunting down books to add, there is no shortage
> for
>> Evan
>>
>> >> to scan for me to proof as well as for other generous
>> scanners
> to
>> >> scan.
>> >>
>> >> If there is interest, I have about 20 books I'll be happy
> to give to
>>
>> >> anyone who has the time to scan them in the next month or so.
> I
>> don't
>> > want
>> >> to proof them and don't want them returned. I'd just
> love to see
>> them
>> > in
>> >> the collection and if there are willing scanners, their
> presence
>> >> could
>> >
>> >> plump up the check out page a little.
>> >>
>> >> Let me know if there's an interest and I'll post a
> list. I sure
>> would
>>
>> >> like to get them out of this book clogged room.
>> >>
>> >> I also have a box of mostly lighthearted books with graphics
> that I
>> >> don't feel equal to the task of describing. if There's
> an interest
>> in
>>
>> >> those,
>> >
>> >> I'll post that list,
>> >> too. I just don't want to overwhelm anyone with more
> scanning than
>> > they
>> >> have time for, something I've accidentally done before.
>> >>
>> >> Keep up the good work, all of you. I remain glad to be in
>> your
>> >> company.
>> >>
>> >> Always with love,
>> >>
>> >> Lissi
>> >>
>> >> Always with love,
>> >>
>> >> Lissi
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "misha" <mishatronics@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:07 PM
>> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Those sneaky French. According to this web page
>> >>>
>> >>> http://french.lovetoknow.com/French_Accent_Marks
>> >>>
>> >>> They do have umlauts (though usually called trema when it
> is used
>> in
>>
>> >>> French words). I say sneaky because, I always thought
> naive used
>> an
>>
>> >>> acute accent, but the table on the web page clearly uses
> naive as
>> an
>>
>> >>> example of umlaut accent and it clearly fits the case of
>> pronouncing
>> > each
>> >>> vowel separately. I still think in most American books an
> acute
>> > accent
>> >>> is almost always used for naive when it occurs in an
> English
>> > sentence.
>> >>> Now if it's in a French quote, I guess it better be
> the trema or
>> the
>>
>> >>> gendarmes will be on the way.
>> >>>
>> >>> I can't help much with how to produce it, though. In
> MS Word under
>>
>> >>> insert there is a symbols item which brings up a table of
> all kinds
>> > of
>> >>> different characters, but it's hard enough for me to
> find what I
>> >>> want
>> > in
>> >>> there (which is why I don't have any of them is this
> email), much
>> > less
>> >>> how a blind person would.
>> >>>
>> >>> Misha
>> >>>
>> >>> On 6/2/2012 6:25 PM, Kim Friedman wrote:
>> >>>> Hi, Cindy I think it's another word for that
> umlaut-like mark. I
>> >>>> found the word on a site where it was talking about
> French accent
>> >>>> marks
>> > (they
>> >>>> do seem to have a lot of them). Regards, Kim.
> -----Original
>> >>>> Message-----
>> >>>> *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Cindy
>> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:02 PM
>> >>>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm curious. What is traemma?
>> >>>> (the answer to your question, though, is umlaut.smile
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>> > --
>> >>>> *From:* Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 2, 2012 6:16 AM
>> >>>> *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi, Ali, what sort of accent mark is alt 0237? Is
> it that I
>> >>>> umlaut or
>> >>>> traemma I want? Please write back and let me know.
> Regards, Kim
>> >>>> Friedman.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> On Behalf Of Ali
>> >>>> Al-hajamy
>> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:11 PM
>> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Accent marks
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If your computer has a number pad, make sure
> numlock is turned
>> > on.
>> >>>> Hold
>> >>>> down the alt key, and press the following numbers:
> 0237.
>> >>>> See also:
>> >>>>
> http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/accents-alt-codes.php
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 02-Jun-12 01:01, Kim Friedman wrote:
>> >>>> > How does one make the accent mark on the
> computer for the I
>> >>>> in
>> > the
>> >>>> > word naive? I know how it's done for
> literary Braille, but I
>> >>>> have no
>> >>>> > idea how it's supposed to be printed. I
> could sure use help
>> > with
>> >>>> this.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Regards, Kim Friedman.
>> >>>> >
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