[bksvol-discuss] Re: submit better copy
- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:43:29 -0400
Cindy,
There may be several factors as to why some books are rated excellent when
they shouldn't be. The rating scale is subjective; what you might consider
excellent may mean something quite different to someone else. And, there is
also the fact that not everyone has access to K1K and its rank spelling
feature. As Bookshare's bolunteer process does not ask validators to comb
through the book, as many of us do, it is quite difficult to predict what
the cause for mislabeled book is.
Pratik
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: submit better copy
Thanks, Jake. That's what I thought. I admit that I
don't read posts that seem to have information that
would not relate to what I do, but that is the
impressson I'd gained from what I did read about
K1000's ranking--which might explain why some books
are rated Excellent or good and really aren't. smile
and sigh
Cindy
--- Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Cindy,
>
> As we've discussed before, Kurzweil 1000 merely has
> a few more approaches to
> using a standard spell checker than does other
> programs. Rank Spelling for
> instance, simply orders the words the spell checker
> finds by the number of
> times they occur in the document. There's really
> nothing else different
> about the feature.
>
> So, no, no, no, and no, Kurzweil won't find words
> that are split, words that
> are missing, and will not catch numbers in the place
> of the letter I when it
> stands alone (ie it's the pronoun, but it would find
> something like m1ddle).
>
> The quality rater BookShare users is very similar,
> and won't catch any of
> those mistakes either. One of the reasons books get
> a higher quality rating
> than they might otherwise deserve. Validators should
> be aware of this and if
> the book contains several areas that have these
> types of mistakes, should
> adjust the rating accordingly. Or, if numerous
> enough, ask themselves why
> they are accepting the book in its current
> condition.
>
> Jake
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 2:18 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] submit better copy
>
>
> > Tracy,
> >
> > I definitely think it would be a good thing for
> you to
> > submit your better copy. Be sure to put a note in
> the
> > comments section that you've looked at both copies
> and
> > yours corrects errors that are still in the other
> > copy.
> >
> > I think sometimes scanners mark books as excellent
> > when they're not, perhaps because whatever they're
> > using misleads them--for example, if I understand
> > correctly, K1000 won't catch errors that are
> correctly
> > spelled but are the wrong word for the context, or
> the
> > numeral one for a capital I. Will it catch words
> that
> > are missing half if the first half is a word by
> > itself? I'm finding a lot of those in the book I'm
> > validating now, where words are hyphenated at the
> end
> > of a line but only the first part of the
> hyphenated
> > word is in the scan and it's a word, e.g., "day"
> but
> > the second part, "light" is missing, I'm
> > assuming,perhaps incorrectly, that K1000 won't
> count
> > that as an error. And what about words that are
> > missing altogether? Again, in the book I'm
> validating
> > now, there are a lot of those. Presumably the
> scanner
> > didn't hold down the book at the binding (it's
> over
> > 900 pages and heavy and would ve difficult to do)
> so
> > several words at the ends of sentences are
> missing.
> > Would K1000 give such a book a lower rating, or
> does
> > it just catch spelling errors?
> >
> > And please, no one suggest that I reject this
> book.
> > It's an interesting and worthwhile book to have in
> the
> > collection, and I'm enjoying reading it.
> Correcting as
> > I go along is no problem. I can't imagine anyone
> > rescanning it, but even if they did, it would have
> to
> > be revalidated, and I'm sure the whole process
> would
> > take longer thanit's going to take me to
> perfectit.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
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