[bksvol-discuss] Re: rtf files and MS Word

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 16:13:28 -0800 (PST)

I do that all the time, too. Sometimes when I download a file to proof, though 
it's supposedly rtf, it seems to be txt. I have to open word and open the file 
as word and save it as word, then work on it and save as rtf. when I open it 
again it's usually rtf,  but looks and acts like word.
Cindy

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--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Judy s. <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: rtf files and MS Word
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 3:31 PM
> Melissa, that's so weird, but so is
> Word.  I don't think there is any problem in editing it
> as a doc and converting it at the last step to a rtf
> file.  I do that all that time on my non-bookshare
> documents, and I've never had a problem with it retaining
> everything I'd done while editing the file as a Word doc
> file. At least, I've never had a problem - Word is always
> more than willing to create a problem where none existed
> before, in my experience! smile.
> 
> Judy s.
> 
> Melissa Smith wrote:
> > Well, When I pasted it in a new document and saved it
> as a .doc file, it was smaller, about 3 mb.., but every time
> I save it as an rtf, it is over 4 mb. I tried just as you
> described, and I also tried copying and pasting, then saving
> directly as an rtf, without saving as a .doc first, both
> were over 4 MB. Would there be any harm in editing it as a
> .doc file, and then just saving it as a .rtf file just
> before uploading?
> > Thanks, everyone.
> > 
> > Melissa
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Judy s. wrote:
> >> Melissa, one other thing to try that I can think
> of.  While inside the file, do a control a to select
> the entire contents. Then, do a control c to copy the entire
> contents.  Then, create a new document with a control
> n.  Paste the contents of the original into it with a
> control v.  Save this new file, with a new file name,
> but save it as a Word Document, not as a rtf. Then, save it
> again, with yet another new file name, this time as a rtf
> file.
> >> 
> >> Then go look at the size of the new rtf  file
> and see if the size is much better. If it is, then move
> ahead working with the new rtf file.
> >> 
> >> I've found that sometimes this will work, when
> you've got what you're describing going on. It strips out
> spurious codes that can find their way into the document.
> >> 
> >> Judy s.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Melissa Smith wrote:
> >>> Well, neither of these was checked. Embed
> smart tags was. I unchecked it, though I'm not sure if that
> made much of a difference. Any other ideas?
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> 
> >>> Melissa
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Monica Willyard wrote:
> >>>> Hi Melissa. Two things might be causing
> this. One is caused by having fast
> >>>> save enabled. It's in the options dialog.
> With that turned on, Word keeps
> >>>> appending things to your document instead
> of just re-saving your file. It
> >>>> makes files larger than they need to be.
> >>>> The other thing that might be happening is
> if you have Word set to embed a
> >>>> copy of your fonts in your files. This is
> done if you want to send files to
> >>>> people, and you don't know if they have a
> particular font you're using, like
> >>>> a handwriting font. Since most people have
> Times New Roman, embedding fonts
> >>>> isn't needed. Again, this is a checkbox in
> the options of Word. It should be
> >>>> unchecked by default unless you frequently
> send documents to other people
> >>>> where a special font is needed.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I hope this helps. If both of these
> options are unchecked, I have no clue. I
> >>>> do know that when I fix page breaks and
> fonts in Word, my resulting file is
> >>>> somewhat larger than when it was in
> Kurzweil. I don't know why, but suspect
> >>>> Word adds some extra formatting code to
> the file.
> >>>>  
> >>>> Monica Willyard
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