[bksvol-discuss] Re: question re underlined words
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:53:33 -0800 (PST)
Ah, well.
Are the indented verses indented?
It's too bad, because although most of the time it
probably doesn't make a difference, in some books it
does, to indicate thoughts as opposed to what's being
spoken. Also, in sentences, it indicates stress or
emphasis on a particular word, although that sometimes
can be "heard" in the reading. Sometimes when I'm
validating, in reading a line the fact that a word
feels as if it should be stressed causes me to look at
the book, and sure enough, it is italicized.
Cindy
--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Cindy, I have downloaded the brf version of Rudyard
> Kipling Complete Verse
> and have read the Prelude. As I suspected, there is
> no sign of italics
> anywhere.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:05 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: question re underlined
> words
>
>
> > Thanks Gerald and Evan.
> >
> > Evan, it's possible that neither the scanner nor
> the
> > validator put the thoughts or any sections in
> ital.
> > I'm assuming Eragon was uploaded in rtf; I seem to
> > remember it was a recent submission and not txt,
> which
> > doesn't retain anything. But unless one scanned or
> is
> > validating with something that indicates ital or
> bold,
> > he/she won't change it. Things don't seem to scan
> iin
> > ital, just makes it junky. smile
> >
> > Try downloading Rudyard Kipling Complete Verse.
> The
> > Prelude, p. 3, is italicized, as well as parts of
> > other poems.
> >
> > Or you might try Out of Body or Elect Mr. Robinson
> (p.
> > 129 and some others have italicized words) or
> Cloud
> > Atlas (italics scattered throughout); I'm not sure
> > what category Out of Body falls into--sort of Sci
> fi,
> > but certainly one of the chapters in Cloud Atlas
> does,
> > and I think Mr. Robinson--well, I don't know. But
> they
> > all have some italics in places--too scattered for
> me
> > to give you page numbers. Let me know what you
> find
> > out, i.e., if the italia=cs in these more recent
> books
> > sow p in braille.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > Cindy
> > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> It won't come out in Braille, though, I will bet.
> I
> >> have a few thousand
> >> pages of Bookshare Braille files by now from the
> old
> >> translator and from
> >> when it was upgraded and I haven't seen an
> italics
> >> or underline symbol -
> >> dots 4-6 anywhere. The only indication I ever
> got
> >> that something was
> >> italicized was when the old Braille translator
> used
> >> to take a new line for
> >> italicized text such as titles of books in the
> text,
> >> as when the book Dune
> >> is refered to in the book The Road to Dune by
> Brian
> >> Herbert and Kevin J.
> >> Anderson, or ship names, such as in Terry Brooks'
> >> Straken, where the names
> >> of the ships were always on separate lines as
> well
> >> as when people's thoughts
> >> were italicized. I have seen no such indicators
> of
> >> italics or underlining
> >> in any of the books done after the translator was
> >> upgraded. I am currently
> >> reading Eragon and am up to page 60. There are
> >> passages where the
> >> protagonist is thinking, and I would bet that
> those
> >> passages are in italics
> >> or are otherwise indicated by a change in font,
> or
> >> something, but no such
> >> indications are in the brf file. The same with
> >> Robert Jordans' Knife of
> >> Dreams. It seems unlikely that that 785-page
> book
> >> had no italics in it, but
> >> the brf file had none at all.
> >>
> >> So now you have a better idea of some of the
> stuff I
> >> like to read. <grin>
> >>
> >> Evan
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:17 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: question re
> underlined
> >> words
> >>
> >>
> >> > Not sure, but my guess is that it will since
> HTML
> >> supports underlining,
> >> > and
> >> > DAISY uses a markup language similar to HTML.
> Try
> >> it and see, then we'll
> >> > know.
> >> >
> >> > Gerald
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Grandma Cindy
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:51 PM
> >> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] question re
> underlined
> >> words
> >> >
> >> > I'm helping Sharon with a nonfiction book and
> some
> >> of
> >> > the handwritten words are underlined. She wants
> >> all
> >> > the emphases, etc., retained because they are
> >> > important. If I underline the words, do they
> >> remained
> >> > underlined when the book is converted to Daisy
> and
> >> > BRF, or should I explain that the are
> underlined?
> >> I
> >> > don't think I've come across this before--just
> >> bold
> >> > and ital.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
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