[bksvol-discuss] Re: letter I sent
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:58:25 -0700 (PDT)
How about kudos, Ann. I agree with what Bob wrote.
I sure hope he doesn't take Medals of Honor which I didn't renew on time
because if someone wanted to take it that was o.k. with me--but that was before
I knew about the problem kids. I'm soon going to start on the book again and am
looking forward,to it though it will take a while.
Still more tests coming up this week because results of others are conflicting
or disparate.
Cindy
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--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Jamie Prater <jdprater@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Jamie Prater <jdprater@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: letter I sent
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 3:27 PM
> Hi, I second what Bob has said.
> You wrote an excellent letter. I actually hope more
> follow in its footsteps to preserve the quality of books in
> this fantastic library.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:47 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: letter I sent
>
>
> > Consider this an un-flame.
> >
> > Well said, well written, and it's about time someone
> took some action.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Bob
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons"
> <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Volunteers, Bookshare" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:30 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] letter I sent
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I did as I promised. I have sent a
> letter. I have three addresses for NW.
> <smiling> One is a University addy, which I
> didn't use, but the others are not. I have written the
> following message. Perhaps I shouldn't have done this,
> but I have done it, so it's finished. If I have
> overstepped my bounds, I am sorry, Pavi, but this just made
> me so upset! I have included the text of my missive
> below. <smiling> All criticisms and flames
> about this should go to me privately, OK? We don't
> need to tie up the list by castigating this old
> busy-body. I do hope that you all will take this
> missive in the spirit in which it has been written. I
> wrote it privately because I didn't think NW was on the list
> here. Here it is. Remember, all flames go to me
> privately.
> >>
> >> Ann P.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good morning Nick,
> >>
> >> I'm writing to you as an unofficial representative
> of the community of volunteers for Bookshare. The
> reason I'm writing to you is to ask you politely to stop
> pushing books through the Bookshare process in such a short
> time. You and another volunteer have made many of us
> extremely upset letely because of the way in which you
> handle your proofreading duties for Bookshare.
> >>
> >> We have noticed that you have been taking book
> after book after book from the Check-out queue and
> downloading them and then reuploading them in an extremely
> short time. For example, you recently took a book
> scanned by Jamie Yates and downloaded it, then reuploaded it
> in four minutes and eleven seconds. Nick, this is way,
> way too short a time to proofread a book for
> bookshare. You cannot even check for title, author and
> copyright information in that length of time.
> >>
> >> Moreover, you make the meticulous, time-consuming
> work done by others a mockery. This is not fair for
> several reasons. First, it's not fair to your fellow
> volunteers because what you are doing is taking books and
> just reuploading them without taking any time at all to
> proofread them, these books are uploaded without careful
> reading or careful proofing. this makes a lot of people
> upset because you're depleting the checkout queue so that
> others who really want to do the job right can't do it.
> Secondly, since the books you push through the system aren't
> truly prooofed, they go onto the library without the second
> go-through characteristic of good proofing. Nick, I
> have spent the past month reading through a book which I
> checked out. This book has caused me no end of
> difficulty because it has many, many blank pages and there
> are some errors that need to be corrected. However, by
> the time I do upload that book, it will be right, and I can
> be proud of what I have done. The
> >> third and most important reason why what you
> are doing is unfair, is that it's ultimately unfair to the
> readership. If they get a book which has been
> railroaded through the system by you, they get a book that
> has not been proofread. Consequently, any metadata on
> the condition of that book is false or at least
> misleading. It may have missing pages, it may have
> garbled pages. It may have page headers that need to
> be removed. It may have information that is missing,
> captions for photos that are missing, any number of scanos
> which would be caught by a proofreader who took his or her
> job seriously. That, my friend, damages the reputation
> of Bookshare! People won't join the library if they
> can't count on finding good, error-free books. You, my
> friend, are damaging a dream! Yes, you are damaging a
> precious dream that is like a porcelin vase. Don't smash
> it! Don't destroy it!
> >>
> >> Finally, young man, no amount of credit for a
> subscription to Bookshare is worth obtaining under false
> pretenses. If you don't proof your books, then you are
> getting that credit falsely. That's a lie. If
> there's one thing in this world I can't abide, it's a
> liar! You, sir, are one, and will remain one, until or
> unless you clean up your act. Pavi's written to you,
> and I trust that you will pay attention to whatever she's
> said. I'm writing to you because as a concerned member of
> the community I'm writing as one of your peers to put a
> leetle more pressure on you to sit up and fly
> straight. Believe me, Nick, if you joined the bks-vol
> list, like you should, you will hear what others have to say
> about you. They aren't please, and they aren't
> amused. So, get your act together! If you want
> to proof books, join the bks-vol list, read the manual, and
> finally, if you can't or won't proofread the books you
> download, then don't bother doing it at all. Do it
> right or don't do it
> >> !
> >>
> >> Ann P.
> >>
> >> -- AAnn K. Parsons
> >> Portal Tutoring
> >> Email: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Web Site: http://www.portaltutoring.info
> >> blog: http://www.samobile.net/users/akp
> >> Skype: Putertutor
> >>
> >> "All that is gold does not glitter,
> >> Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT
> >>
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