[bksvol-discuss] Re: headers and footersRE: Re: Question, was: submitted ...

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  • Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:43:33 EDT

Go ahead and do some experimental scanning. If you don't know how print 
books are laid out then that is a good way to learn and it is also a good way 
to learn how to use your scanner. Besides, what is the worse thing that can 
happen? You might end up screaming in frustration and be on the point of 
tearing your hair out while you nearly collapse in exhaustion, but I, for one, 
have gone through that many many times and I have survived it. I have also 
learned a lot while going through it.

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[bksvol-discuss] Re: headers and footersRE: Re: Question, was: submitted 
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Hi, Bob. yes, your explanation was helpful as well as educational. I have a 
Canon LIDE90 scanner and am chicken about using it. The reason is I don't 
know
how print books are organized. Oh, just put it down to that scanning sounds 
intimidating to me and I know I have no idea of what to do in order to 
proceed.
Regards, Kim. P.S.: Yeah, I'd also like to know what others have to say on 
the subject. K.

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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:26 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: headers and footersRE: Re: Question, was: 
submitted The Little Bookheaders

Hi Kim.

I, like you, grew up reading braille books with the title of the book on 
the top of odd numbered pages and nothing on the even numbered pages. Thus, we
could believe that all books are written this way. Not true! I have learned 
a lot from reading bookshare books. 

Some books have the title of the page on odd numbered pages, and the 
author's name on even numbered pages. Others have the story or chapter title on 
the
even numbered pages. 

I've seen some books that have no running headers, but I'm not sure whether 
the book was written that way, or the scannor, or proof reader, or stripper
made the book that way. Maybe some of our sighted colleagues can tell us of 
other book styles they've encountered. 

Hope this helps.

Bob    

"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask 
for it back when it begins to rain."   

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----- Original Message ----- 

From: 
Kim Friedman 

To: 
bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:10 AM

Subject: [bksvol-discuss] headers and footersRE: Re: Question, was: 
submitted The Little Bookheaders
    
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a header the title of a book? For 
example, in Braille books, I was accustomed to reading the title of the 
book
on every odd numbered page. Now one sees the book title on the prefatory 
page where one gets the bibliographic information of the book and on the first
page of text, I.e., where the story or document begins. I don't know what 
print books are like, but do you have the Book title on only the odd numbered
pages or on all pages? I was pretty much able to ignore the book title on 
the various pages, though it tends to interrupt the reading just a bit 
because
you have to skip the title line. Regards, Kim. 

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:13 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question, was: submitted The Little 
Bookheaders

Valerie, we are supposed to delete them, but be careful to leave the page 
number.

As a sighted person, do you pay attention to them? I never do. smile. Maybe 
if I were reading a book of short stories I'd use them to find a particular
story, but otherwise I  just ignore them, I think those members who listen 
to books don't have that opportunity if the headers are present. I don't 
know
how they affect Braille readers.

Cindy

Wish List (i.e., books wanted added to the collection) and 
books-being-scanned list available at sites below

Wish List: https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Bookshare+Wish+List

Books Being Scanned List: 
https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/Books+Being+Scanned+List

--- On Tue, 8/18/09, Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question, was: submitted The Little Book
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 3:13 PM

Dear Bud;

I just noticed that you also are a ham radio operator. I am also in my call
sign is: N0HSJ
<br>I have a question probably as much for the list as for you, and that 
was
talking about all headers have been deleted. Do you mean at the top of the
page were sometimes it has the title and/or the name of the chapter? I have
not been deleting these, as I think they provide visual cues for sighted
readers, but if I should be deleting them, I will start with my next book.
Or, is it okay to do it whichever way and just make a note in the
submissions?

Thanks as always for everyone's help!

Valerie

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] On Behalf Of Bud Schwab
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:27 PM
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] submitted The Little Book
> 
> Hi Gang,
> 
> Just sent in The Little Book by Selden Edwards.  It's a little over
> 400 pages and all headers have been deleted and it has quite a low
> rank spelling number.  It's fiction but there is a lot of history in it
> also.
> Hope somebody enjoys proofing it.
> 
> 
> Bud Schwab
> W 6 Z Y P
> Malibu, California

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