[bksvol-discuss] Re: headers and footersRE: Re: Question, was: submitted ...

It is Bookshare's policy to retain title pages and titles of chapters and 
stories on the first page of the chapter or story, but I am not sure those 
count as page headers.

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Hi, Roger, I thank you for the explanation. I suppose I'd want occasional 
headers  at the first page of text letting me know I've finished reading the 
prefatory
material and am now reading the book proper. I'd prefer to see headers if 
the header contains the name of the story I'm reading, especially if I'm 
reading
an anthology, but only on the first page of every story, otherwise, it 
would be a pain to deal with. Regards, Kim.

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The page header is usually the title of the book alternating with the name 
of the chapter or story if it is an anthology. If the chapters are not named
or if it is not an anthology the name of the author is usually used. Note 
that I said usually. In point of fact the page header can be anything the 
publisher
wants to put there or there might not even be a page header. I think they 
were probably originated as a quick reference to remind the reader of what 
book
he or she was on and what part of the book it was in case that reminder was 
needed. I think it has also come to be considered esthetically pleasing to
the eye. For the sighted reader they are easy to ignore and one might not 
be even conscious of their presence. To someone who must read every line, 
though,
by synthetic voice or Braille, they can be distracting. They are just one 
of those print conventions that do not translate well into accessible 
formats.
As I said, certain page headers still do have a use, but even then they are 
still a bit distracting.  

                                                          "Can a nation be 
free if it oppresses other nations? It cannot." Vladimir Lenin     

             The Militant: 
http://www.themilitant.com 
Pathfinder Press: 
http://www.pathfinderpress.com
Granma International: 
http://granma.cu/ingles/index.html
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    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a header the title of a book? 
For example, in Braille books, I was accustomed to reading the title of the
book on every odd numbered page. Now one sees the book title on the 
prefatory page where one gets the bibliographic information of the book and on 
the
first page of text, I.e., where the story or document begins. I don't know 
what print books are like, but do you have the Book title on only the odd 
numbered
pages or on all pages? I was pretty much able to ignore the book title on 
the various pages, though it tends to interrupt the reading just a bit 
because
you have to skip the title line. Regards, Kim. 

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Bookheaders

Valerie, we are supposed to delete them, but be careful to leave the page 
number.

As a sighted person, do you pay attention to them? I never do. smile. Maybe 
if I were reading a book of short stories I'd use them to find a particular
story, but otherwise I  just ignore them, I think those members who listen 
to books don't have that opportunity if the headers are present. I don't 
know
how they affect Braille readers.

Cindy

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From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question, was: submitted The Little Book
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 3:13 PM

Dear Bud;

I just noticed that you also are a ham radio operator. I am also in my call
sign is: N0HSJ
<br>I have a question probably as much for the list as for you, and that 
was
talking about all headers have been deleted. Do you mean at the top of the
page were sometimes it has the title and/or the name of the chapter? I have
not been deleting these, as I think they provide visual cues for sighted
readers, but if I should be deleting them, I will start with my next book.
Or, is it okay to do it whichever way and just make a note in the
submissions?

Thanks as always for everyone's help!

Valerie

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> 
> Hi Gang,
> 
> Just sent in The Little Book by Selden Edwards.  It's a little over
> 400 pages and all headers have been deleted and it has quite a low
> rank spelling number.  It's fiction but there is a lot of history in it
> also.
> Hope somebody enjoys proofing it.
> 
> 
> Bud Schwab
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