[bksvol-discuss] Re: categories, was Re: Building
- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:30:03 -0500
That is true, Cindy, about books belonging to more than one category. The
National Library Service used to send out Braille catalogs if we wanted
them. When I got my first catalog I remember being very disappointed
because so many books were listed in more than one category. There were not
nearly as many books as I thought because of this.
Sue S.
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From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: categories, was Re: Building
But books can be put into more than one category. A book like Golden Compass
could be listed as both fantasy and science fiction. And what on earth s
social science fiction, a category that B&N has? It seems to be science
fiction that has a sociological component. Also, would you put children's
fantasy and science fiction only in Children's. My guess would be yes, but
young adult I'd put in both.
I agree with E that using the Dewey decimal categories is simplest, but
perhaps these days the LC categories are easiest to find. However, I think
most libraries still use Dewey, and a check of the online catalogs for the
book would tell the submitter or validator how to categorize the book--or
maybe a bookshare employee.
Cindy
--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx <Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: categories, was Re: Building
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 9:48 AM
> As I said, there is some overlap. Despite the fact that
> science fiction and
> fantasy are two different genres, more different than hard
> boiled detective
> and historical romance, there are some that it is
> difficult to categorize. In
> such cases I think that either one should examine the book
> for the predominate
> element, science or magic, and categorize accordingly or
> else categorize
> them as both science fiction and as fantasy while keeping
> the two categories
> separate. In the case of historical fiction one might
> categorize such a book as
> fiction and history while a history book could be
> categorized as nonfiction
> and history. What I am saying is that when there is
> overlap then more than one
> category can be used and that does not mean lumping
> completely different
> types of books together. In a message dated 9/28/2008
> 9:03:09 A.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time, akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I do hope that the categories are reexamined and changed
> for the
> better. I agree that Science Fiction and Fantasy are *not*
> the same
> category at all. With that said, there are some books that
> hover over
> the border between the two. The Golden Compass is one, for
> example.
> C.S. Lewis Science Fiction Trilogy is another. These I
> can pick off
> the top of the pile. However, when you have vampire books
> glomped in
> with James P. Hogan and David Weber and Isaac Asimov, or
> when
> Christopher Paolini is glumped together with Star Wars
> books, then
> there's a trouble!
>
> Since we're now up to 41,000 books, we have no
> business not running
> Bookshare like a library, a public library. We should be
> following the
> standards for categories from the ALA. 41,000 books is
> *not* a
> collection in somebody's back room that can be
> arranged just like the
> person pleases. It needs to be professionally done,
> frankly. Many of
> the books that are scanned have Library of Congress book
> numbers.
>
> Now I can certainly understand that renumbering books and
> so on is
> impossible, but separating vampire books from Space
> Exploration books
> is definitely something that needs to be done. And yes,
> historical
> fiction *does* need to be separated from history. Since
> books are
> commonly separated into fiction and nonfiction categories,
> we should at
> the very least do this.
>
> Ann P.
>
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