Hi Julia, If you told us what problems you are having and what kind of hardware/software you are using, I imagine someone on this list could help. Or you could write to: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:21 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What several gramatical publications say about the ellipsis. Wow, this is very complicated, and if I may say so, quite technical and confusing. Maybe if I knew unicode it would make more sense. Julia ----- Original Message ----- From: <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] What several gramatical publications say about the ellipsis. > Hi Guys, > > Oh, boy! The ellipsis gets complicated if you look into it. Here > are some statements that I found about its usage and how it can and should > be typed. > > Have fun! > > See below. > > Mayrie > > In English > > The style and use varies in the English language. > The Chicago Manual of Style > suggests the use of an ellipsis for any omitted word, phrase, line, or > paragraph from within a quoted passage. There are two commonly used > methods > of using > ellipses: one uses three dots for any omission, while the second makes a > distinction between omissions within a sentence (using three dots: .?.?.) > and > omissions between sentences (using a period and a space followed by three > dots: . .?.?.). An ellipsis at the end of a sentence with no sentence > following > should be followed by a period (for a total of four dots). The > Modern Language Association > (MLA) however, used to indicate that an ellipsis must include spaces > before > and after each dot in all uses. If an ellipsis is meant to represent an > omission, > > square brackets > must surround the ellipsis to make it clear that there was no pause in the > original quote: [ .?.?. ]. Currently, the MLA has removed the requirement > of > brackets in their style handbooks. However, the use of brackets is still > correct as it clears confusion. > [1] > > According to Robert Bringhurst's > Elements of Typographic Style > , the details of typesetting ellipses depend on the character and size of > the font being set and the typographer's preference. Bringhurst writes > that > a > full space between each dot is "another Victorian eccentricity. In most > contexts, the Chicago ellipsis is much too wide" ? he recommends using > flush > dots, > or > thin-spaced > dots (up to one-fifth of an > em > ), or the prefabricated ellipsis character ( > Unicode > U+2026, > Latin entity > …). Bringhurst suggests that normally an ellipsis should be spaced > fore-and-aft to separate it from the text, but when it combines with other > punctuation, > the leading space disappears and the other punctuation follows. He > provides > the following examples: > > i?? j > k?. > l?, l > l,?? l > m?? > n?..! > > In legal writing in the United States, Rule 5.3 in the > Bluebook > citation guide governs the use of ellipses and requires a space before the > first dot and between the two subsequent dots. If an ellipsis ends the > sentence, > then there are three dots, each separated by a space, followed by the > final > punctuation. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.