[bksvol-discuss] Re: What several gramatical publications say about the ellipsis.

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  • Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:42:02 -0600

Hi Julia,

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From: "Julia" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: What several gramatical publications say about 
the ellipsis.


Wow, this is very complicated, and if I may say so, quite technical and
confusing. Maybe if I knew unicode it would make more sense.
Julia
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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] What several gramatical publications say about the
ellipsis.


> Hi Guys,
>
> Oh, boy!  The ellipsis gets complicated if you look into it. Here
> are some statements that I found about its usage and how it can and should
> be typed.
>
> Have fun!
>
> See below.
>
> Mayrie
>
> In English
>
> The style and use varies in the English language.
> The Chicago Manual of Style
> suggests the use of an ellipsis for any omitted word, phrase, line, or
> paragraph from within a quoted passage. There are two commonly used
> methods
> of using
> ellipses: one uses three dots for any omission, while the second makes a
> distinction between omissions within a sentence (using three dots: .?.?.)
> and
> omissions between sentences (using a period and a space followed by three
> dots: . .?.?.). An ellipsis at the end of a sentence with no sentence
> following
> should be followed by a period (for a total of four dots). The
> Modern Language Association
> (MLA) however, used to indicate that an ellipsis must include spaces
> before
> and after each dot in all uses. If an ellipsis is meant to represent an
> omission,
>
> square brackets
> must surround the ellipsis to make it clear that there was no pause in the
> original quote: [ .?.?. ]. Currently, the MLA has removed the requirement
> of
> brackets in their style handbooks. However, the use of brackets is still
> correct as it clears confusion.
> [1]
>
> According to Robert Bringhurst's
> Elements of Typographic Style
> , the details of typesetting ellipses depend on the character and size of
> the font being set and the typographer's preference. Bringhurst writes
> that
> a
> full space between each dot is "another Victorian eccentricity. In most
> contexts, the Chicago ellipsis is much too wide" ? he recommends using
> flush
> dots,
> or
> thin-spaced
> dots (up to one-fifth of an
> em
> ), or the prefabricated ellipsis character (
> Unicode
> U+2026,
> Latin entity
> &hellip;). Bringhurst suggests that normally an ellipsis should be spaced
> fore-and-aft to separate it from the text, but when it combines with other
> punctuation,
> the leading space disappears and the other punctuation follows. He
> provides
> the following examples:
>
> i?? j
> k?.
> l?, l
> l,?? l
> m??
> n?..!
>
> In legal writing in the United States, Rule 5.3 in the
> Bluebook
> citation guide governs the use of ellipses and requires a space before the
> first dot and between the two subsequent dots. If an ellipsis ends the
> sentence,
> then there are three dots, each separated by a space, followed by the
> final
> punctuation.
>
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