[bksvol-discuss] Re: Titles
- From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:20:42 -0600
Elizabeth,
Wrong. Jr. and III distinguish different people where as something like PhD
is not given at birth to separate individuals. See Carrie's guidelines for
submission fields tip at:
http://jbrownell.com/bks/tip.asp?id=11
for what BookShare has been doing for years. Have some of us repeatedly
suggested that this tip should be read? It will tell you what to do to
accomidate the database.
Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth and Burton" <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:13 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Titles
Nevertheless, according to Gustavo's message earlier today you are to
leave out III and JR. as well as acquired titles such as phd md msw. This
is so we can accomodate difficulties in the database.
E.
At 07:11 PM 1/4/2007, you wrote:
Dear Fellow Volunteers,
A thought about which Titles, initials and roman numerals to include in an
author or editor's name on the submission or uploading form. If the
initials are on the person's birth certificate, they are part of his or
her name, Like Jr. or III. M D and Sgt. etc are acquired reflecting
status/accomplishments acquired during a lifetime and are supposed to be
skipped.
Do you think this method of deciding is sound?
Always with love,
Lissi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:41 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Gustavo's comments are understandable by all
according to Gustavo
Jonna,
Omiting Ph.d or M.D from an author's name is not illegal. I would
consider
those items as titles as well. They are, technically speaking,
descriptors
of the author's status and thus are not required.
Pratik
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jana Jackson
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:28 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Gustavo's comments are understandable by
all
according to Gustavo
Seems to me that a better solution would be to omit the comma that
usually
appears before M.D. or Ph.D. When I think of a title, I think of Mr. or
Mrs. or Dr. So, yes, that's definitely a comment that is easily
misunderstood. I would think it would be kind of illegal, too, given the
fact that it's actually part of the author's name. Seems like the
complete
name of the author would be equally as important as the copyright name,
the
inclusion of page breaks, etc. Anyway, just my 2 cents' worth! <Smile>
Jana
----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth and Burton"
<thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:27 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Gustavo's comments are understandable by
all
according to Gustavo
I believe it has to do with the database and the fact that the database
in
its present form will see phd md etc as a actual author.
The engineers are going to be busy particularly as this has been an
issue
discussed on this list for over four years.
E.
At 06:45 PM 1/3/2007, you wrote:
I do not understand leaving off MD and PHD. If I am going to read a
book
about a health problem, say heart disease, I would pay more attention
to
one
written by a doctor than I would a lay person or student. I think this
is
a
disservice to bookshare.org readers, annoyed though Gustavo may be.
Sue S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth and Burton" <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:03 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Gustavo's comments are understandable by all
according to Gustavo
I just had a conversation with Gustavo. He says that other people
understand his comments. He was surprised I did not understand the
following to mean do not include PHD or MD in author's names. To his
"title" means MD or PHD. He seems extremely annoyed to be questioned.
At 12:57 PM 1/3/2007, you wrote:
Stop Being Your Symptoms and Start Being Yourself
Author:
Arthur J. Barsky MD and Emily C. Deans MD
Action: RETURNNEW
Date: 2007-01-02 12:05:04-08
User: gustavo galindo
Please do not include titles in author names. Please use a comma to
separate different
authors.
E.
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E. At 07:11 PM 1/4/2007, you wrote:
Dear Fellow Volunteers,A thought about which Titles, initials and roman numerals to include in an author or editor's name on the submission or uploading form. If the initials are on the person's birth certificate, they are part of his or her name, Like Jr. or III. M D and Sgt. etc are acquired reflecting status/accomplishments acquired during a lifetime and are supposed to be skipped.Do you think this method of deciding is sound? Always with love, Lissi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:41 AMSubject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Gustavo's comments are understandable by all according to GustavoJonna,Omiting Ph.d or M.D from an author's name is not illegal. I would consider those items as titles as well. They are, technically speaking, descriptorsof the author's status and thus are not required. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jana Jackson Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:28 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Gustavo's comments are understandable by allaccording to GustavoSeems to me that a better solution would be to omit the comma that usuallyappears before M.D. or Ph.D. When I think of a title, I think of Mr. or Mrs. or Dr. So, yes, that's definitely a comment that is easily misunderstood. I would think it would be kind of illegal, too, given thefact that it's actually part of the author's name. Seems like the complete name of the author would be equally as important as the copyright name, theinclusion of page breaks, etc. Anyway, just my 2 cents' worth! <Smile> Jana----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth and Burton" <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:27 PMSubject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Gustavo's comments are understandable by allaccording to GustavoI believe it has to do with the database and the fact that the database inits present form will see phd md etc as a actual author.The engineers are going to be busy particularly as this has been an issuediscussed on this list for over four years. E. At 06:45 PM 1/3/2007, you wrote:I do not understand leaving off MD and PHD. If I am going to read a book about a health problem, say heart disease, I would pay more attention toonewritten by a doctor than I would a lay person or student. I think this isa disservice to bookshare.org readers, annoyed though Gustavo may be. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth and Burton" <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Gustavo's comments are understandable by all according to Gustavo I just had a conversation with Gustavo. He says that other people understand his comments. He was surprised I did not understand the following to mean do not include PHD or MD in author's names. To his "title" means MD or PHD. He seems extremely annoyed to be questioned. At 12:57 PM 1/3/2007, you wrote: Stop Being Your Symptoms and Start Being Yourself Author: Arthur J. Barsky MD and Emily C. Deans MD Action: RETURNNEW Date: 2007-01-02 12:05:04-08 User: gustavo galindo Please do not include titles in author names. Please use a comma to separate different authors. E. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a listof available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.29/608 - Release Date: 12/29/2006 8:22 AM To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a listof available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list ofavailable commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
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