[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: diactitical marks: tilde and grave
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:44:16 -0800 (PST)
Dear Lissi,
The two dots over a letter, usually and a or o, is
called an umlaut. I know it's used often in German;
I'm not sure about other languages.
Using the keyboard, with Microsoft Word for the Mac,
from Microsoft Office, I combine option plus u for the
umlaut, and then the letter, e.g., a; for the acute
accent, option key plus e and then the letter; and
for the grave, option plus the grave key and then the
letter. I don't know if these will work on whatever it
is you're using, though. I also in in my Word program
an Insert file and can go down to Symbols, find the
letter with the diacritical mark that I want, e.g., a
with the umlaut over it, and insert it into the word.
Do you have that?
Of course, since our circumstances and the programs ar
differentm it's possible that nothing I've said will
help you and you'll have to wait for someone else
toanswer your question. smile But since I'm here I
thought I'd give it a try.
Cindy
--- Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Cindy and everyone,
>
> While we're on the subject, can anyone tell me how
> to place an accent over a
> letter? I know there are the two slashes, the grave
> and an accent formed by
> two dots side by side above a letter. I have no idea
> what that accent is
> called.
> Always With Love,
>
> Lissi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:40 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: diactitical marks:
> tilde and grave
>
>
> > Sue, I'm not Tom, but -- I started to explain but
> > googled to be sure I was correct in thinking it's
> used
> > in Spanish and I found this wonderful
> definition--"A
> > diacritical mark ( ~ ) placed over the letter n in
> > Spanish to indicate the palatal nasal sound (ny),
> as
> > in cañon, or over a vowel in Portuguese to
> indicate
> > nasalization, as in lã, pão." (I didn't know it
> was
> > used in Portuguese). I think Tom described it as
> an
> > elongated s lying on its side.
> >
> > A grave accent is the reverse of the acute accent,
> i.e
> > it' slants left and the acute slants right.
> >
> > I just noticed that on my keyboard the key to the
> left
> > of the number one has a tilde at the top and the
> grave
> > symbol (BTW, Tom--you did spell it correctly--but
> Sue,
> > it's pronouced grahv) symbol at the bottom. It's
> used
> > in both French and other languages--I can't
> remember
> > if it's used much in Spanish, but I googled again
> and
> > found it's in Italian and other languages, too.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > --- siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I am not Lissi, Tom, but what the heck is tilda?
> A
> >> key? And you say grave
> >> accent. Are they the same thing?
> >>
> >> Sue S.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "tom hawkins" <tjhawk1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:28 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Section break page
> >> break
> >>
> >>
> >> > Dear Lissi, I, went back and reviewed what I
> sent
> >> to you and realized I
> >> > didn't tell you to exit M S Word after saving
> from
> >> using the Find And
> >> > Replace routine. It's important only after
> >> putting the hard page breaks
> >> in.
> >> > Also, using the control F, ALT F, Escape
> series
> >> of commands repeatedly
> >> > takes you successively from nonbreaking hyphen
> to
> >> nonbreaking hyphen
> >> > without re-entering the caret tilda. Well I
> think
> >> that's about it. Best
> >> > Tom--- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 8:27 AM
> >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Section break
> page
> >> break
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Dear Tom,
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you for the information. Do you use
> these
> >> key strokes at each
> >> > > section break, as the cursor is on the line
> >> below it? Or, do you go into
> >> > > some menu bar and those strokes, as you
> >> described below, then change the
> >> > > breaks for the whole book.
> >> > >
> >> > > What if some have already been exchanged for
> >> page breaks as I have for
> >> > > the first 40 pages of this funny, imaginative
> >> collection of folk tales
> >> and
> >> > > myths.
> >> > >
> >> > > I laughed a plenty at the ridiculous cat
> >> cleaning joke you sent. I spoil
> >> > > and love my dogs lavishly and get tearful at
> any
> >> description of hurtful
> >> > > things done to animals and usually beg the
> >> person to stop telling me
> >> > > before my heart breaks, but, your humor was
> an
> >> exercise in the absurd
> >> and
> >> > > I, who need humor in my life even more than
> >> usual, appreciated the
> >> change
> >> > > of pace and the little giggle.
> >> > >
> >> > > It wasn't until I began meeting people on
> >> computer that I realized some
> >> > > people are genuinely offended by certain
> humor.
> >> It's made me caughtious
> >> > > now that I know humor makes some people
> seethe
> >> instead of laugh. I'm
> >> sure
> >> > > I have boundaries in what I consider funny,
> too,
> >> but I personally found
> >> > > your post a hoot. I'm sure everyone knows you
> >> meant no harm and we have
> >> to
> >> > > accept the fact that one person's joke is
> >> another's insult.
> >> > >
> >> > > Recently I mailed a joke about Bush to 3
> >> friends. Two of them raved
> >> about
> >> > > how funny it was and were busily passing it
> on.
> >> The third scolded me
> >> > > twice, calling me a few insulting things.
> >> Passive me, replied that I'd
> >> > > take her opinions about humor in to account
> in
> >> the future and dropped
> >> the
> >> > > matter, deleting the scoldings and not over
> >> reacting, leaving the
> >> > > friendship in tact.
> >> > >
> >> > > When I get humor I think is in poor taste, I
> who
> >> never even mildly say
> >> bad
> >> > > words, I just delete it and avoid insencerity
> by
> >> not passing it on, and
> >> > > not writing to the person and raving about
> how
> >> funny it was. I think my
> >> > > lack of reaction gets my point across.
> >> > >
> >> > > I think the longer we remain on a list, the
> more
> >> we come to know the
> >> > > complexity of its members and realize like
> real
> >> people, they are basicly
> >> > > wonderful, often better than most, but we've
> all
> >> got our tender spots.
> >> > >
> >> > > Just a reminder since I've wandered so farr
> >> afield, I'm looking forward
> >> to
> >> > > learning more about using the commands you
> >> provided which you can review
> >> > > below.
> >> > >
> >> > > Always With Love,
> >> > >
> >> > > Lissi
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi I'll will jump in with the info, Find ,
> >> carret lower case b. The
> >> > > carret is a shift six. and Replace with
> carret
> >> lower case m. That will
> >> > > change all of your section breaks to hard
> page
> >> breaks. Happy
> >> > > Thanksgiving.
> >> > > Tom
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Cindy,
> >> > > Different programs will handle section and
> page
> >> breaks differently. So
> >> to
> >> > > someone validating a book, it may appear that
> >> there are no page breaks,
> >> > > but they may not realize that section breaks
> are
> >> there.That could cause
> >> > > the validator to reject the book on the basis
> of
> >> no page
> >> > > breaks.
> >> > >
> >> > > The BookShare system however handles each
> >> equally. The process for
> >> > > converting section breaks to page breaks is
> an
> >> easy find/replace in MS
> >> > > Word. If you're interested I'm sure Gerald or
> I
> >> could dig it out of the
> >> > > archive.
> >> > >
> >> > > We're on a semester deal and this one is
> going
> >> well. I'm still hanging
> >> in
> >> > > with all A's at this point, there are just
> two
> >> weeks and then a week of
> >> > > finals left.
> >> > >
> >> > > The weather? Kind of cool, 30s-50s generally,
> a
> >> lot cooler than what we
> >> > > became used to with this longer fall (in
> terms
> >> of weather).
> >> > >
> >> > > I've been enjoying the lack of things hanging
> >> over my head and I've been
> >> > > able to get a lot of BookShare volunteering
> done
> >> these last couple of
> >> days
> >> > > as well.
> >> > >
> >> > > Happy Thanksgiving!
> >> > > Jake
> >> > >
> >> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Section break
> page
> >> break
> >> > > Interesting, Jake, I thought it did make a
> >> difference
> >> > > and that's why Tom or someone changed all his
> >> section
> >> > > breaks to page breaks. But you're more the
> >> expert at
> >> > > this than I am. smile
> >> > >
> >> > > I hope you're enjoying this brief break. Are
> you
> >> on a
> >> > > semester or a quarter system? HNow's the
> weather
> >> where you are?
> >> > >
> >> > > Cindy
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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