[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning Braille

  • From: "Gail The U. S. Male" <gail1959@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:53:58 -0700

that may be in California, I don't know, but I've talked to teachers who
feel that dumbing down the testing is the answer, and they don't want
children damaged psychologically by failing tests. I told them that was
absurd! Kids need to learn what it's like to fail, as well as succeed, it's
a part of life. They didn't like my attitude in the least! Needless to say,
I haven't spoken to them in a couple of years.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of tom hawkins
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:27 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning Braille


Hi Gail,
It's not the teachers.  It's the parents that dictate through their school
boards and in the case of California the state legislature.  Parents would
not accept their darlings failure  And the truth of the matter is that while
one system will work for one it will not work for another, no matter the
system.!

Tom Hawkins

P. S. I am a retired math teacher and I've taught at all levels from third
through adult levels.----


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From: "Gail The U. S. Male" <gail1959@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:43 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning Braille


> I'm dating myself, but I learned to read before that stupid whole word
> reading idea came out. that was the worst piece of garbage perpetrated on
> the public in a long time. Then they wonder why Johnny can't read! I'm
> stopping here, since I don't want to write a novel on things I have
> against
> the education establishment. They're "dumbing down" our kids, making it
> perfectly fine to perform at the lowest levels, since we wouldn't want to
> damage Susie's poor little psyche by letting her take the consequences of
> her actions and failing, and Poor Susie might feel badly if she didn't do
> at
> least as well as the other kids on her tests, so let's lower the level we
> accept as passing on all tests, so she won't feel bad.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 3:36 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Learning braille
>
>
> And to read. I wsa a high school English teacher at
> one point in my life, and my students  were part of
> that generation that learned to read via whole word
> recognition. They weren't able to work out new words
> that they came across. I started spending a class hour
> a week having them read the literature we were reading
> aloud and having them work out the words phonically.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
> I think it goes back to
>> teaching whole word
>> recognition that was so popular for sighted students
>> years ago until it was
>> discovered that phonics were extremely important in
>> being able to spell.
>> ----- Original Messag
>
>
>
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