Yes, so do I! I tried Carob, and nearly gagged! it's not at all the same! -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:31 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: O T Dogs and chocolate Actually it is the Theobromin in the chocolate that causes the problems. it is a stimulant, and as dogs are smaller in weight than humans, they are susceptible to it more. The worst culprits are baking chocolate the bitter bars we use in making things like brownies and the like. One to two squares of baking chocolate can kill a medium sized dog. Dark chocolate is next, then Milk, and then white chocolate. White chocolate it would take like twenty pounds or so. It is a stimulate and is why chocolate is so addicting to humans, legal speed. There is a good article on it, can send it to those who are curious. Most Vegan and health food stores sell Carob which is a "substitute" to chocolate. They claim it tastes the same, I bet to differ. But there are dog biscuits made of Carob. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:28 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] O T Dogs and chocolate Dear Cindy, I was half kidding. From my first dog when I was six, our family policy was that one of us gave our pet the last bite from any meal. By bite, I mean a nibble about the size of your fingernail. This worked for us because our dogs never begged during meals, but we had the fun of sharing that last nibble of toast, hamburger, brownie or anything. We were so consistent that they were satisfied with that last bite and also didn't beg from strangers because they knew the last bite would only come from one of our family. I know that's not by the book, but it is just a family quirk I was raised with. Otherwise my dogs eat the specialty type dry dog food and dog treats on a schedule which keeps me from checking a clock, because the dogs have great timers in their tummies. About chocolate. You are absolutely right. The way I understand it is that it's the caffeine which can cause fatal heart attacks because a dog's heart normally has an irregular rhythm making them far more sensitive to caffeine, That means that caffinated pop and coffee, etc can be equally deadly, though it's the quantity they consume in relation to their size that determines the level of danger. A lick of coffee from a saucer, or sucking an ice cube that's been in a cola drink won't harm a dog, but dogs who grow to love those flavors are more at risk since they are more likely to track down those foods without permission and consume too much of them before they are stopped. I understand vets get the most cases of caffeine poisoning around holidays where people leave gifts of chocolate under the Christmas tree or in Easter Baskets or Heart shaped boxes within their pets' reach where they normally wouldn't leave it out. Also, dark chocolate is worse than milk chocolate. I'm a basket case if a pet of mine hiccups twice or isn't as enthusiastic as usual at play time. I'm a believer in prevention. Any sweets at my house are on top of the refridgerator or in high, closed cupboards. So I admit I break the rules. I spoil my doggies, but do so with measured, conserverative, deliberation. Oh, and some of the spoiling has no schedule or limits. My dogs have full house and furniture privelleges, they bark at will and get as much petting, and sweet talk as they can bear. Always With Love, Lissi To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.