Thanks Dave. Looks to me like that's confirmation that the book doesn't have its own copyright. As for the ISBN, I think it's probably correct because the copyright page looked like it scanned well. I see no reason not to trust what's there. Seems like there ought to be a place where you could verify ISBNs though since some agency or organization has to assign one to the book. As for using the pages from the earlier publishing, I don't see why I couldn't do exactly what you suggested. That's what I had in mind when I wrote Cindy. Thanks for the opinion. BTW, the club review came straight from the book jacket, so you definitely found the correct book. Thanks again for the help. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of talmage@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:29 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Looking for Submitter Hi Gerald, I don't know if this is much help, but here is what it says about the book at the Science Fiction Book Club web site. PROTECTOR OF THE SMALL (4-IN-1) by Tamora Pierce 800 pages Publisher: Random House Children's Bk. Publication Date: August, 2002 CLUB REVIEW Ten long years have come and gone since the Kingdom of Tortall proclaimed that girls could take on a page?s training. At long last, one young girl has come forward: Keladry of Mindelan. Kel and her family spent several years in the Yamani Islands, where she received warrior training in the arts of self-control and weaponry. Her aptitude seems clear, but the training master, Lord Wyldon of Cavall, fears that women are too weak to serve. Since her parents are highly regarded by the court, Lord Wyldon gives in, but on one condition: Kel must serve a one-year probation. Kel is furious, but she feels compelled to accept. She longs to become a knight like her heroine, Alanna the Lioness, the King?s Champion. Drawing on her Yamani training, Kel braces herself against the hazing of her classmates, who believe that no girl is good enough to serve side by side with a boy. But this girl is determined to succeed. Kel refuses to let anyone or anything?including fearsome Immortal monsters such as the Spidren, Tauros or Hurroks?prey on the weak or the small. And this determination will stand her in good stead, as she readies herself for a future that includes an evil sorcerer who is the greatest monster of all?. Includes First Test, Page, Squire and Lady Knight. Jacket art by Greg Newbold. (790 pp.) I don't know how this squares with the copyright page info you sent which included: >First SFBC Science Fiction Printing: November 2004. > >All rights reserved under International and Pan-American Copyright >Conventions. I would be tempted to say that since the author is the copyright holder, I would go with the 2002 date, as printings and editions don't always impact a copyright. I also wouldn't worry too much about the ISBN if it is causing problems, as it is an optional field anyhow. If the submitter however, filled out the ISBN field, it shouldn't be a problem as the system accepted it already. I would also say, if the submitter doesn't get back to you, go for the replacement pages, as long as you number them accordingly, even if they are from a single volume edition. Dave