A demo should work just as well as the full copy. Do you know where the kes file that you want to convert to rtf is? Kurzweil's default folder where to put stuff is in a folder called general, which is a subfolder of a folder called kurzweil educational systems, which is a subfolder of my documents. You can open the desired kes file in either of two ways, but note that in the first way folder contents by default are shown in a grid, so when you are looking through the contents of a folder you have to use more than just your up and down arrows. Left and right have to be used as well. Faster, since you know what you're looking for, it is easiest to simply use the first letter instead of the arrows. the first way is: 1. go into my documents 2. find the folder called kurzweil educational systems and push enter 3. find the folder called general and push enter 4. find the kes file and push enter. It should automatically open in kurzweil. The second way is: 1. open kurzweil 2. open the open dialogue with control o If the defaults haven't been changed, you should already be in a list of the contents of the general folder. just use up and down arrows or the first letter. 3. Finally, Once you find that kes file, simply push enter on it, and it will be opened in kurzweil. If while in the open dialog you want to look in the contents of another folder: 1. push shift tab 2. the general folder is highlighted. If you want to look in other folders on the same level, by this I mean other folders which are also in the kurzweil educational systems folder, use your up and down arrows. 3. if kurzweil announces a particular folder you arrowed to contains other folders, use your right arrow to open that folder and view those folders. 4. if you want to exit that folder and back out of it, use your left arrow. Note, if you continue using your left arrow over and over you will eventually go from parent to parent to parent, ultimately getting as far as your c drive. 5. at any time, if you want to view the contents of any folder which is arrowed to, simply push tab, and the entire contents of that folder will be shown in one vertical list. 6. If you ever get lost in this web of folders, simply close the open dialogue with the escape button, and then open it back up again with control o. You will be back where you started from. As to your question about sketches, Kurzweil does not keep images in it's files. Or, at least by default it doesn't. I don't know if there is a way to maintain pictures or not, but it certainly is not a requirement for bookshare. Tiff ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Goldring Tajalli To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:11 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file? Tiffany and friends, I know I am a computer illiterate but I could not manage to get to that list of files and if finally ocurred to me to ask if maybe one needs kurzweil itself and not the demo. Is that possible? I still have not heard from the social worker about funding to purchase Kurzweil and while I am trying to get a lot accomplished in scanning and even some validating it will all be wasted energy if I cannot change the file from kes to almost anything else recognized by my computer and allready there or free. On another problem. I am scanning The Tale of Genji and have finally gotten it Kurzweil to recognize blank pages and splutters - a page with 2 or 3 letter and nothing more - that seem to occur at odd time and in addition to the regular pages. Now I finally got it to put both the contents list and the page numbers list so they are on the same page but I cannot get i it to include the sketches in any way. Any ideas? Amy ----- Original Message ----- From: Tiffany H. Jessen To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Kurzweil scan to RTF file? yes, it is easy for either the origional submitter or the validater to convert the format as long as whom ever is doing the converting has kurzweil on their system. I do not know of any tool which could be used to convert it if you don't own the program. Now, asuming you have kurzweil, 1. open the desired file in kurzweil. 2. open the file menu with alt and then down arrow, or the short cut is alt F. 3. arrow down and push enter on save as, or the short cut is A. 4. type the desired file name, or, if it has been saved before you can leave the field alone. 5. push tab once. 6. You are in a huge list of all different types of file formats, so either arrow up and down to the one you want, or jump to the one you want with the first letter. I.E. r for rtf. 7. push enter and wait. Kurzweil will announce when the file has been saved, and to where. Now, I'll also tell you that it doesn't matter even if you used the same file name, the new file is of a different format, so the first copy of the file has not been overwritten. You now have two copies of the book in two different formats, so you may want to delete one of them at some point. ----- Original Message ----- From: Estelnalissi To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Kurzweil scan to RTF file? Dear Volunteers conversant with Kurzweil, file extensions, and Tech helpers, If a book is scanned with K 1000 is it possible to change the file to RTF and submit it in the RTF format? If so, how can it be done? Thanks in advance, Always with love, Lissi