[bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm not happy

  • From: rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:56:18 -0400

It's coming up on three months now so I am beginning to feel like I am not so new here now, but I suppose that I am still new enough to not always know a new policy from an old policy.


-----Original Message-----
From: siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:58 am
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm not happy


Yes, that is a new policy, Roger.  Notices are sent to the validator
automatically if a book is returned.

Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I'm not happy


I have had one book I validated returned to the download list now. I
was informed of that fact by email from Bookshare. I quickly went to
the download list and checked it to find a note from Carrie in the
comment history explaining the problem. I downloaded it again and made
the simple correction and uploaded it again. The point is that I did
not have to check the download list to find out that it had been
returned there. Bookshare informed me by email.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 2:36 am
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I'm not happy

I think, from looking at books that have been returned to page one, and
especially now that books with minor errors will be returned with the
validator's corrections intact, that the kinds of errors meant that
submitter might be able to fix tht validator cannot are things like
Sue's  blank page and very often, lack of copyright information,
misspellings of title or author, missing pages, usually only one. In
those kind of cases, the validator would have done the main work of
validation but, not having the book, as the submitter did, would not
necessarily notice that a page is missing (though admittedly if he/she
had actually read the book while validating or did a final pagination
check or that the copyright info was wrong. Bookshare's assumption
would be that the original submitter can get the book again and provide
that information--correct that error--but the validator should get
validation credit. The submitter would still get the submission credit.

Perhaps some of you who write very well, e.g., Lissi, Monica, etc., can
write a clearer explanation of part of the newsletter and Pavi can add
it and send out a revision.

Note that the newsletter was sent to all volunteers (I think). Those of
us who subscribe to the volunteer email list write to each other when a
page is garbled or missing or the copyright info is not readable in the
scan or is missing, but the ones not on the list don't. And I don't
think anyone, submitter or validator, checks the download list
regularly to see if a book  has been sent back to it, so I was *really*
happy to see that both will be notified if a book is sent back for a
correction. smile

Cindy


> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm going to paste here a section from the latest
volunteer
> newsletter with wich I am not very happy.
>
> from now on books will be returned to the download
list with a "Hold for
> Validator or Submitter". Depending on the nature
of the correction, and/or
> who is best able to make the correction, either the
submitter or the
> validator will re-upload the book. If re-edits are
uploaded by the
> submitter, either the submitter or the validator
should write to us
> requesting that validation credits be transferred from
the submitter to
> the
> appropriate validator. We will make the transfer
accordingly.
>
> Uh, if a validator hasn't done a job complete
enough for a book to
> be included in the bookshare collection, and the
submitter makes
> corrections
> that a validator should have made, that validator
should not get credit.
> The validator should have contacted the submitter
either directly or via
> bookshare staff before uploading to fix things that
need fixing. What's
> the
> deal with giving people credit for work not done?
>
> These are just my opinions, but as a submitter, I
don't have any
> intention of fixing errors in a book that I submit if
the validator is
> going
> to get credit for not having done the work.
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
>



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