I think, from looking at books that have been returned to page one, and especially now that books with minor errors will be returned with the validator's corrections intact, that the kinds of errors meant that submitter might be able to fix tht validator cannot are things like Sue's blank page and very often, lack of copyright information, misspellings of title or author, missing pages, usually only one. In those kind of cases, the validator would have done the main work of validation but, not having the book, as the submitter did, would not necessarily notice that a page is missing (though admittedly if he/she had actually read the book while validating or did a final pagination check or that the copyright info was wrong. Bookshare's assumption would be that the original submitter can get the book again and provide that information--correct that error--but the validator should get validation credit. The submitter would still get the submission credit. Perhaps some of you who write very well, e.g., Lissi, Monica, etc., can write a clearer explanation of part of the newsletter and Pavi can add it and send out a revision. Note that the newsletter was sent to all volunteers (I think). Those of us who subscribe to the volunteer email list write to each other when a page is garbled or missing or the copyright info is not readable in the scan or is missing, but the ones not on the list don't. And I don't think anyone, submitter or validator, checks the download list regularly to see if a book has been sent back to it, so I was *really* happy to see that both will be notified if a book is sent back for a correction. smile Cindy > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I'm going to paste here a section from the latest > volunteer > > newsletter with wich I am not very happy. > > > > from now on books will be returned to the download > list with a "Hold for > > Validator or Submitter". Depending on the nature > of the correction, and/or > > who is best able to make the correction, either the > submitter or the > > validator will re-upload the book. If re-edits are > uploaded by the > > submitter, either the submitter or the validator > should write to us > > requesting that validation credits be transferred from > the submitter to > > the > > appropriate validator. We will make the transfer > accordingly. > > > > Uh, if a validator hasn't done a job complete > enough for a book to > > be included in the bookshare collection, and the > submitter makes > > corrections > > that a validator should have made, that validator > should not get credit. > > The validator should have contacted the submitter > either directly or via > > bookshare staff before uploading to fix things that > need fixing. What's > > the > > deal with giving people credit for work not done? > > > > These are just my opinions, but as a submitter, I > don't have any > > intention of fixing errors in a book that I submit if > the validator is > > going > > to get credit for not having done the work. > > > > Mayrie > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.