[bksvol-discuss] Re: ISBNnumbers
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:17:04 -0700 (PDT)
Oh o.k. But soometimes I've sen the ISBN number, start without the 13- or
whatever and just the other numbers.
Anyway, I'm fglad you gave me the info.
Cindy
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> From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:08 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ISBNnumbers
>
>
>If you left off the initial digit then that would definitely get you no
>results.
>
>On 3/19/2012 9:00 PM, Cindy wrote:
>Don't Know.I used All Departments as you suggested and put in the ISBN number
>without the hyphens and got no fresult. Then I put it in with the hyphens and
>got the result. --But wait, I also didn't use 1- and then the rest of the
>number the first time. I just started with the number after the 1- Maybe that
>was the reason
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>>
>>Cindy
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>>From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:28 PM
>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ISBNnumbers
>>>
>>>
>>>I am not sure why you had to put the hyphens in unless Amazon has changed
>>>something about their search. I learned a long time ago that ISBN searches
>>>on most any site just work better without the hyphens. Of course, by now I
>>>have been routinely removing them for long enough that if anything has
>>>changed I wouldn't know about it.
>>>
>>>On 3/19/2012 6:18 PM, Cindy wrote:
>>>Roger, Thank you very much. It worked perfectly, though I did have to put in
>>>the hyphens. Mike was right; The "cloth" is the hardcover and the "(paper)is
>>>paperback (I put in both ISBNs for fun; it's l like playinig with a new toy,
>>>though in this case learning about something new and enjoyng it so much I
>>>anted to do it again. grin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Cindy
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>>>>From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:25 AM
>>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: ISBNnumbers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Just type the ISBN into the Amazon
search field without any hyphens
that might be in it. I would
suggest leaving the search
parameters to all departments.
>>>>>
>>>>>When you use that combo box to
select a search in the books
department it tends to return
various editions of the book you
are looking for and you will
>>>>>
>>>>>have the same dilemma. If you
search all departments you will
get results that describe the
exact edition that you typed in
the ISBN for. There may actually
>>>>>
>>>>>be more than one result. I don't
know why, but Amazon often has
more than one page for a specific
edition and all but one of them
has a paucity of information
>>>>>
>>>>>about the form that the book is
in. If you click on the title of
the first one displayed, though,
you will get the page that tells
you most about the exact
>>>>>
>>>>>ISBN edition you typed in. You
might also want to try typing in
the ISBN in the search field at
OpenLibrary.org. You can get a lot of metadata about the
>>>>>
>>>>>book there without a lot of
clutter like customer reviews and
recommendations and the such. I
would not advise abandoning Amazon
for Open Library though.
>>>>>
>>>>>Some of those entries at Open
Library can be sparse too, but the
good thing about Open Library is
that when the entry is sparse you
can fill in the missing
>>>>>
>>>>>information yourself if you have
it.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 3/19/2012 6:03 AM, Cindy wrote:
>>>>>block quote cited from
>>>>>mid:1332151397.67737.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Thnks, Mike I'll take Roger's
advice and do that. But I'm not
sure how. Would I put my book into
Amazon and see what ISBN number is
used for it? (hopefully
>>>>>
>>>>>not both). Or do I just put the
ISBN number in the books space and
see what book it comes up with?
>>>>>Thanks to both you and Mike for
you advice.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cindy
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>>>>>block quote
>>>>>From: Mayrie ReNae
>>>>><mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>To:
>>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 12:23
AM
>>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re:
ISBNnumbers
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>>You are so logical. Thank you!
That makes total sense. Forget
what I said
>>>>>unless it works.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mayrie
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From:
>>>>>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>[mailto:
>>>>>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>
>>>>>On Behalf Of misha
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:09
PM
>>>>>To:
>>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re:
ISBNnumbers
>>>>>
>>>>>I like Roger's idea to do a search
on Amazon and see how each is
described.
>>>>>Actually, I think cloth refers to
hardcover and paper refers to
paperback.
>>>>>In the dimness of time the
cardboard covers of hardcover
books were coated
>>>>>with cloth to help them last
longer (and before that it was
leather).
>>>>>Paper, I think is short for
paperback. I've seen books with
both ISBNs and
>>>>>haven't a clue why the publishers
would do it that way.
>>>>>
>>>>>Misha
>>>>>
>>>>>On 3/18/2012 10:44 PM, Cindy
wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks,Roger
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>>>>>> *From:* Roger Loran Bailey
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>>>>>rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:*
>>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 18,
2012 8:23 PM
>>>>>> *Subject:*
[bksvol-discuss] Re: ISBNnumbers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do a search on Amazon for
each ISBN and see how each are
described.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/18/2012 10:00 PM,
Cindy wrote:
>>>>>>> My print book has both
numbers; unlike most books I've
seen it
>>>>>>> doesn't hardbound or
library copy, but I guess the
"paper" must
>>>>>>> be the hardcover one,
so that's the ISBN number I'll use
when I
>>>>>>> upload.
>>>>>>> Thanks, Mayrie
>>>>>>> Cindy
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Mayrie
ReNae <
>>>>>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:*
>>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday,
March 18, 2012 5:11 PM
>>>>>>> *Subject:*
[bksvol-discuss] Re: ISBNnumbers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HI Cindy,
>>>>>>> When filling out
the form on the Bookshare web site
to upload
>>>>>>> your book to the
approval queue, you use the ISBN
that
>>>>>>> applies to the
exact book that you are
proofreading. I
>>>>>>> suspect that the
ISBN that you want is the one for
the
>>>>>>> hardcover, not the
cloth. First, how many people are
likely
>>>>>>> to be able to scan
a clothbound book, which I assume
are less
>>>>>>> commonly found in
libraries, but more likely, when
two isbn's
>>>>>>> are listed, it is
most common that the second
applies to the
>>>>>>> edition in which
the numbers both appear.
>>>>>>> Does that make any
sense?
>>>>>>> In short, please
use the hardcover ISBN, unless you
have a
>>>>>>> concrete reason to
believe that the cloth edition is
the one
>>>>>>> that was scanned.
>>>>>>> Which matches your
print copy? Does knowing that
help you?
>>>>>>> Mayrie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:*
>>>>>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> [mailto:
>>>>>bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>
>>>>>*On Behalf Of *Cindy
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday,
March 18, 2012 4:24 PM
>>>>>>> *To:*
>>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:*
[bksvol-discuss] ISBNnumbers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Darn my memory.
If my book has 2 ISBN numbers, one
for cloth
>>>>>>> and one for paper
(which I assume is the hard-cover
book I
>>>>>>> have) should I
put only the one for the one I
think I have?
>>>>>>> Or should I just
not put ISBN number, or should I
do both? (A
>>>>>>> Actually, I don't
think I've seen this before in
the print
>>>>>>> book I've used for
proofing, so maybe it isn't my
memory at fault
>>>>>>> Cindy
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