Lets just think of it this way. How many of us on this list, own KES, Open Book, or Win Wizard. I know from personal experience that saving in a format that is useable by all makes sure your book gets validated much much faster. So... I would submit in .rtf from now on, and not worry what exactly the site says. It does need updating, but it isn't a priority when we still have a backlog of books. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden rhod3021@xxxxxxxxxxxx "One glance at a book and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for 1,000 years. To read is to voyage through time" ~ Carl Sagan