Dave, I suspect the problem to be much more of a fault of Openbook than Bookshare. However let's not blame any one thing yet. If you can please give us two recent titles that you uploaded and/or validated, if would be quite helpful. If you please give us the titles that you just tried to check out with openbook, it would be even better. As Robert pointed out in his message, K1K may not behave in the same strange manner with these books. Frankly, I trust K1K's rendering of DAISY than Openbook. I also have some other independent tools that would also varify the integrity of DAISY material. Let's look at this difficulty scientifically and then try to determine where the problem lies. Bookshare's tools may or may not be at fault here. Once the problem is looked at, we can best devise a solution. Pratik Pratik Patel Interim Director Office of Special Services Queens College Director CUNY Assistive Technology Services The City University of New York ppatel@xxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of talmage@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:45 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: All quote closed quotes The continuing saga of page breaks gets worse ... Being an Openbook user, the subject of this thread caught my attention, so I thought I'd better check out just how my quotes were being rendered. Well in the book I'm working on now, it does seem to represent quotes as an ASCII 148, or a closed quote. Similarly, it mucks about with the apostrophe. While this isn't a major problem, it's just one more annoyance from Openbook. I also thought I'd check a couple of the books I've submitted that are in the library, and a separate problem I found there is a major league concern. I downloaded 3 daisy versions of my submissions that represent a broad period of time, and in every case I found that pagination was totally messed up. Page breaks are being lost, and lines that were, and should be, separate are being run together. The page integrity is shot, with page numbers appearing in the middle of pages, and the page count being short. As I don't usually validate my own scans, I thought I'd better check something I did validate, and it was just as bad. After the prolonged discussions we've had over page breaks, it would seem to make any of our previous points moot, as it seems the program that is used to convert files to daisy disregards existing page breaks anyhow. Now, there is a possibility that as I was using Openbook to view the daisy files, that it is actually the source of the problem, but if it is at the Bookshare end, this is going to be very, very, disappointing. If anyone else wishes to check out where the page breaks fall, the following books were all correct when initially submitted, and are just 3 that I've checked. The Berets by W. E. B. Griffin Sharpe's Prey by Bernard Cornwell Killer's Wake by Bernard Cornwell The following is the validation I checked that was correct when resubmitted, but no longer seems to be so. This Pen For Hire by Laura Levine What do you all find in regard to your submissions??? Dave