[birdky] Re: NOTE OF CAUTION: Pine Siskins with Salmonella ....

  • From: "Slankard, Kate (KFW)" <Kate.Slankard@xxxxxx>
  • To: "mikesindahouse@xxxxxxxxx" <mikesindahouse@xxxxxxxxx>, BIRDKY <birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 17:55:26 +0000

Folks,



Our Wildlife Disease Program at KDFWR would be interested in testing some 
siskin specimens IF anyone finds 3 or more dead beads during a few days at one 
location.



If you have specimens that meet this criteria and are interested, please place 
them in plastic bag and freeze them or keep them in a cold location until 
submission. Please use good hygiene practices (wear gloves if possible and wash 
your hands after handling these birds). Note- that having a dead bird at your 
feeder should not cause alarm for your family’s health, but precautions should 
be taken with handling and storage. Salmonella can affect people and children, 
the elderly, and immunocompromised individuals shouldn't handle sick birds.



Please call Christine Casey, our wildlife veterinarian at 502-892-4584 
(Frankfort) to coordinate pick up of the specimens if you have some that meet 
this criteria.



Thanks,



Kate Slankard

Avian Biologist

Nongame Branch

KY Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources

#1 Sportsman's Lane

Frankfort, KY  40601

Phone:  502-892-4474

Fax:  502-564-4519

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www.fw.ky.gov



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-----Original Message-----
From: birdky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <birdky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of 
mikesindahouse
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 12:10 PM
To: BIRDKY <birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: brainard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [birdky] Re: NOTE OF CAUTION: Pine Siskins with Salmonella ....



Here are a bunch of questions I have that perhaps someone can answer or can 
help get answered.



Are we sure it’s salmonella and not some other pathogen? Has anyone recovered a 
dead bird and got it analyzed? Is that even a possibility?  Would RROKI or 
similar entity / veterinarian be able to to assist?



By law are we allowed to capture a live wild bird in distress and take it to 
the vet to see what’s going on and perhaps get it some antibiotics?



I find it very curious as to why one species is being affected more so than 
others (mostly finches) that share a preference for the same feed, though 
perhaps others may eat thistle in smaller/ limited quantities than siskins do.



Could it be thistle / feed we are putting out has simply gone bad?  I believe 
there is a shelf life - expiration dates can be found on some feed packaging.



I know grocery stores have recalls when pathogens find their way into our food 
supplies. Could it be that one has found it’s way into the supply of thistle?



Agree regular cleaning of feeders, baths and the area immediately around them 
would help reduce the potential for excrement to spread germs, particularly on 
the ground and at the bird bath. I would advise to rinse well after cleaning 
your feeders with chemicals.



Thanks,

Mike Callan

Louisville, KY



On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:26 AM, Eric Lathrop 
<eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:



I'm sad to report that I've had 2 Pine Siskin deaths in the last

week, and I've seen a sluggish Siskin sit on my porch railing for

several hours. I'll be taking down my feeders today, and purchasing some 
bleach the next time I get groceries.

Thanks for the information, I'm still pretty new to this.



Is it safe to leave suet feeders up? My Siskins mostly visit my

thistle tube feeder, and occasionally the sunflower tube feeder, but

I've never seen them on the suet.



Also, is it safe to still toss out in-shell peanuts? Should I just

halt everything for 2 weeks?



Eric Lathrop, Louisville



On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 07:57:06AM -0500, 
brainard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:brainard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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0);font-family: arial, sans-serif;">It appears that Salmonella is

moving through the flocks of Pine Siskins that are wintering in our

area. Three folks who still have flocks at their feeders are

reporting lethargic, weak, or dying birds. This is a well-known

problem that cannot be completely addressed by those of us who feed

birds, but we can apparently help out the situation by following

measures outlined in the below-linked

articles:<br><br>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A_

_wildbirdsunlimited.typepad.com_the-5Fzen-5Fbirdfeeder_2013_02_if-2Dy

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<br><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family: Geneva, Arial,

Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><a

href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.chronli

ne.com_news_wdfw-2Dbird-2Dfeeders-2Dblamed-2Dfor-2Ddeadly-2Dsalmonell

a-2Doutbreak-2Damong-2Dwild-2Dbirds_article-5Fa5af5512-2D546b-2D11eb-

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255);">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.chronl

ine.com_news_wdfw-2Dbird-2Dfeeders-2Dblamed-2Dfor-2Ddeadly-2Dsalmonel

la-2Doutbreak-2Damong-2Dwild-2Dbirds_article-5Fa5af5512-2D546b-2D11eb

-2Da33d-2Dc7694ab26481.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=jvUANN7rYqzaQJvTqI-69lgi41yDEZ

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Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><br></div><div

style="font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:

9pt;">For anyone will try to decide whether or not to take the safe

route and consider ceasing with bird feeding or a "time out" for the

safety of the siskins ... it may be hard to suddenly quit feeding

birds right now, but a two-week break shouldn't do anything to

threaten anyone's back yard birds. Conditions so far this winter have

not been extreme and upcoming forecast is not for any severe cold or

snow.&nbsp;</div><div style="font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica,

sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family:

Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Anyone who is

aware of additional measures feel free to post here.</div><div

style="font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:

9pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica,

sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">bpb, Louisville</div><div

style="font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size:

9pt;"><br></div></div></div></body></html>

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