You probably haven't noticed this, but I killed the mud on bb14.betterbox.net. As soon as I finish going over a few things, I'm going to upload lima1.0a9 and a newer driver. I'll probably do that in a few hours. Object creation is a bit different there, but IMHO it is easier and more flexible. I don't think we, or anyone else, should have any problems adjusting to that. It also has a really really nice shell for wizards. Its very reminiscent of a unix shell, as it allows you to pipe data from one command to another (ls | grep somefile) and send it to a file (ls > log). Lima also has a very nice autodoc system. Basically, an autodoc daemon runs at boot time and a given time, which scans all of the files for comments of a certain type. Once it is up, look at /help/wizard/autodoc for the commenting rules. I think we should make this required for everything, if feasible. :P Lima also has something called lpscript, which I am not very familiar with, unfortunately. I haven't really tried looking for documentation on it yet, though. I'll put that on my todo list though. When I find something, I'll upload it. Most of what I have found has to do with something completely different. :) Curuntar probably knows a bit more about it, though. One of the things we'll need to do is create a list of things we want to do with this mud, the features, policies and rules we want to have. Once we do that, we can prioritize everything, then determine what needs to be modified, coded from scratch, removed completely, etc. There is a lot to be done, but I don't think it will be as bad as it would have been if we'd stayed with TMI-2. Something else we'll have to decide, which is probably more important then anything else, is theme. In the past, we've talked about going with a Tolkien based theme, set in the first age, as well as creating our own world. Both of these have their advantages and disadvantages. On the one hand, a Tolkien based theme gives us the advantage of starting out with a very good, well known and consistent theme. On the other hand, it does limit us in several ways. With a homebrew theme, it will obviously only be limited by our imaginations, but at the same time, it will be difficult to make it as consistent and well thought out as Tolkien's world. On another note, I've finished going through the configuration for lima, so I'll be uploading it in a few minutes. As a reminder, you connect to bb14.betterbox.net:9898. Also, I've just emailed Eol, asking if he'd like to be involved. And /one/ more thing :) You can view an archive of this list at: http://www.freelists.org/archives/beleriand/ :) -- +------------------------+ |jbender@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| +------------------------+ Hoare's Law of Large Problems: Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out.