Howdy all; We had four vehicles and five cool observers at Saddle Mountain last night and I am pleased with the results. The site is pretty dark and has room enough for at least 20-25 vehicles if we park in some type of ordered sequence. The skies are very similar to Flatiron. Any direct lights from the Palo Verde power plant are hidden over a small rise and all the other lights are far in the distance. After observing for a while, Richard Harshaw was nice enough to drive along the road with high beams on so Joe Goss and Lynn Blackburn could see if car lights are going to be a problem. It turns out they are no trouble at all. The path of Elliot Road does not direct any lights toward the observing field while driving along either direction. We did that because this was a problem at a previous location. AJ and I started looking for a spot that the club could use when the Moon was third quarter and the sites in the hills were too cold. I do think that this will work. It is a 60 to 90 minute drive from west Phoenix and the skies are worth the trip. I am perfectly clear that another 45 minutes or so will get you to the Antennas site, but I think that a "close in" site can also be useful when Moonrise is midnight. Let's plan for a club outing on Jan. 17 at this location and club members can see for themselves. I will get the directions to Peter Argenziano and make certain that this site directions are on the club website. I know that we have tried two other locations near this one, but let's make this the only "Saddle Mountain" site from now on. To be honest, if this one does not work out we may have to try some other locations. I know that Tom and Jennifer Polakis also scouted in this area (thank you both) and there are not many other choices around. Last night was cold and clear, Richard, Lynn, Paul Lind and I spent some time with Joe Goss in his motorhome getting out of the wind and warming up. However, we did do some observing. Mercury was just seen before it set and formed a nice line with Jupiter and Venus above the sunset. Richard, Lynn and I scanned some open clusters in binoculars. Hope to see a big crowd for January, a chance to show off all the neat stuff you received for Christmas;-) Clear skies; Steve Coe -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.