[AZ-Observing] Re: Meteor or was it Something Else?
- From: "Bernie Sanden" <bsanden@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 22:03:47 -0700
Sounds like space junk to me. The one time I saw it (at Vekol in the
late 80's) it literally came up over the horizon, across the entire sky,
and "set" on the opposite horizon in 30 sec or so. So 4 or 5 degrees a
second sounds about right (we had time to manually track it in my dob).
It was seen across a number of states. Lots of color, but I don't
recall any hissing.
My vote is for space junk. Just tell me where to hand in my ballot.
By the way, this may be a rare event today, but our grandkids may get a
show every couple years if this article is accurate:
http://seattlewebcrafters.com/nsecc/?q=node/view/50
- Bernie
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[mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neville Cole
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Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Meteor or was it Something Else?
Thanks for the link to the Albuquerque Journal Tom. The "emailer's"
description pretty much matches what I saw approximately 8 years ago
from
Victoria, BC.
Angularly speaking, "my space junk" was a slow moving object, was seen
over
a wide geographical area, and broke into diminishingly smaller pieces as
it
burned up. The tail of glowing pieces was approximately 10 degrees long
and
resembled the burning engine of common fireworks, or, more morbidly,
what
you might expect a disintegrating space shuttle to look like. Within a
couple days the authorities announced it was re-entering space junk,
although I don't recall them ever identifying which particular piece of
junk
it was. Victoria is maybe 80 miles north of Seattle.
Iridium flares aren't sky crossers, as far as I know, so they're
probably
ruled out. Moving at 5 degrees per second jives with crossing the sky
in 30
seconds. It's faster than most satellites as seen in their usual lofty
orbits, but probably about right for something burning up at a lower
altitude. Based on the time reports, you'd think the object took nearly
2
hours to cross from Seattle to New Mexico. It probably only takes twice
that long to fly that distance, so something's fishy there.
That was funny about Dr. Sky though. With a moniker like that, he can't
possibly be wrong.
Neville
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From: Tom Polakis <tpolakis@xxxxxxx>
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To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Meteor or was it Something Else?
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:40:23 -0400
---- Neville Cole <nevillecole@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Did anyone here witness the bright so-called fireball visible over
Arizona
> on Sunday night? (I didn't)
>
> From the article in the Arizona Republic today, the eyewitnesses talk
about
> what sounds like something that's considerably slower moving than any
meteor
> I've ever seen or heard of.
A Google News search turns up stories in the Republic and the
Albuquerque
Journal.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/1003meteor1003.ht
ml
http://www.abqjournal.com/abqnews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view
&id=1562&Itemid=2
I'd agree with Neville that it's space junk. The Albuquerque Journal
piece
mentions that it lasted 30 seconds. Meteors typically move much faster
than
a hand width (5 degrees) per second. Unless they're right in the line
of
sight, the slowest meteors come and go before non-astronomer types get a
chance to see them.
Maybe I should stop speculating, though, and leave this matter for Dr.
Sky
to explain to the press.
Tom
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