Hi, I could give you all the details about this object, but that would be like telling you the words to the National Anthem. It's been done to death, but I thought I would try it again. I posted two versions. The top one I tried to bring out the intergalactic flux a little more. I am not sure it makes much difference, but I would be interested to know which one people like better. Thanks for looking and comments and suggestions are welcomed. http://www.azstarman.net/M81.htm Bernard -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.