Yes, IC-342 is a wonderful big but faint galaxy. In the 10" scope from Lake Alamo Road: 70X Extremely faint, very large, probably seeing the middle only. Looks much like an unresolved open cluster with about 10 foreground stars. At 35X, it is surprisingly hard to see. UHChelps bring it out, halo is almost non-existent. In the 20" scope from White Tanks West (Sun Valley Parkway): 80X Very large,very faint, there is a fuzzy center nucleus, slight brightening in the background otherwise. Many stars involved. Using the UHC filter seems to bring out the background. A string of stars tangent to the nucleus on the WSW. It is very definitely there, averted vision doesn't help much. Generallumpiness in the background. Interesting even if it is on the faint side. Irregular shaped. Though I don't state it in the observation, my drawing in the 20" shows hintsof spiral arms. Ken Reeves -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.