[AZ-Observing] Re: Beautiful Universe

  • From: "Bernie Sanden" <bsanden@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:31:20 -0700

Beautifully said, Stan.

Wait, now that I look closer, your message consists of nothing more than
a huge combination of squiggly letters.  Each letter is nothing more
than some black dots on a white background. 

Nevermind.


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[mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stan Gorodenski
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:05 PM
To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Beautiful Universe

My intent is not to criticize Keith, but I have had the opposite opinion

about the universe being beautiful for some time and this is as good a 
time as any to raise this issue. The early philosophers and ancient 
astronomers looked upon the universe in a mathematical way, i.e., in an 
idealized abstract way. However, beauty is totally a matter of one's 
perspective. We like to think of the human body as beautiful, but as we 
magnify it to the cellular level we find cells that make up the human 
body composed of snotty clumps of this or that cellular material. Very 
ugly in another perspective. As we get to an even smaller and smaller 
scale, even to the subatomic level, things are not nice and ordered. 
Instead they are a hodge podge of irregular pieces of this or that that 
can only be described in statistical and probabilistic ways. They 
generally do not follow nice mathematical formulations. As we get to a 
larger scale some of the astronomical objects we see we perceive as 
being beautiful, but again it is only in the eyes of the beholder. Even 
on a larger scale objects are composed of irregular pieces of this or 
that. Even space itself is not uniform but again is composed of 
inconsistent fields of differing types and strengths, subatomic 
particles, etc. Yes, we like to think the Universe is beautiful, but 
this is strictly a human perspective. In reality it is a _mess_ and not 
that beautiful at all. Only man's _abstract_ mathematical laws and 
concepts that define the universe in overall general terms without 
getting into the nitty gritty of trying to model the irregular 
appearance of, for example, the Orion nebula, are beautiful.
Stan


Keith Schlottman wrote:

>I just received the 2008 edition of Sky & Telescope's "Beautiful
Universe".
>The book is full of eye candy for those of us who enjoy this amazing
and
>awesome universe that we live in, and it highlights the works of the
world's
>best astrophotographers.
>
>One of the imagers is Tucson's own Dean Salman - his work covers four
full
>pages of the book!
>
>Congratulations to Dean.
>
>I highly recommend picking up a copy.
>
> 
>
>Keith Schlottman
>
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