Paul: Strictly speaking, I do not think it was too far outside of topic - the Novice group thread. Here's why... I like the idea when people not just plan the upcoming observing event here, but also take the time to follow up with a good report of how it went. The reason for this is that although I have spent four years in the area, on two separate stays, I am still sometimes confused by the weather here. There have been some nights I have missed, especially those where a group of high thin clouds appear on a Saturday afternoon. I tend to take a look at them, and the satellite image/water vapor loop and decide, and I get burned about 50 percent of the time. As time goes by and I read how people fared on various weekends, I can calibrate just what the skies can do here as far as being different here over the valley versus Vekol or Sentinel or wherever. I find the list very useful and like to hear how the folks in Tucson, and Flagstaff are doing as well, since they are not that far away. This last weekend was nothing to calibrate, it was a clean and honest wipeout, and clearly, someone took delivery of a 5" or larger Astro - Physics. It is also great to hear how any events go with regard to the sites and any problems or advantages or any changes found with each. There are several of us here in the PHX and even more in the TUS area who have done hard time in the SFO bay area. These folks will note that there is a extremely active e-list going there called The Astronomy Connection or TAC for short. This list is a product of a very large member base and it goes from strength to strength and morphs and subdivides into new branches. Compared to TAC, the Az obs list is laser focused on topic at all times. On TAC, which can be a very enjoyable read, and I still stop in there from time to time, a LED flashlight thread can run a week or longer and cover some 200 messages. If you ever get discouraged about the weather here, just read TAC archives and see the "fogged-out" stories they have. During an El Nino year, the list gets very superstitious and they talk of burning scopes/owners as sacrifices (strange how just one moist weekend here can bring this up, are we spoiled????????????). I think Az observing is right on the mark and if not a burden to Paul, would like to see even more content in it. Russ -- -- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. See this message's header if you want info about unsubscribing or the list's archive. This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.