[audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town

  • From: Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>
  • To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 07:51:29 -0600

Yep but often that is the trade off, to recruit you must make promises.  Now 
whether they are kept is a different matter.  

The trick is to do it all and not get caught.  
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Bruce Pearl did in fact cause some problems for UT, but he also had some good 
> recruiters or good coaching skills one because when he was here the men’s 
> basketball team was doing some things and more than just Pat’s Lady Vols were 
> getting some recognition.  
>  
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> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>  
> I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or retired out some of them were 
> hoping that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t glad they 
> didn’t.  They were already in trouble, he would have probably gotten them in 
> more trouble.  
>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>  
>> Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he 
>> leaves and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl and the 
>> basketball program. Even after Bruce was penalized from coaching, I think UT 
>> suffered penalties. Of course there are going to be some reprocussions on 
>> the program just because the coach is connected, but in a way I think our 
>> teams suffered more than the coaches. Probably just a biased opinion, but ya 
>> know.
>>                 Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way that 
>> it could have went on that long and the situations continued without someone 
>> speaking up about it.     
>>                 The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does not 
>> apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself innocent. 
>> Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent until proven 
>> guilty, the rest of the public are ready to hang you before they even hear 
>> the evidence. A clear example of this occurred the other day in class. After 
>> the Grand Jury came back with a not guilty verdict in Ferguson my professor 
>> asked the classs what they thought about the incident. The responses were 
>> well they knew if they found him not guilty they were going to have a riot, 
>> they should have just found him guilty to keep the rioting from occurring, 
>> he was wrong for shooting Michael Brown, etc. However, not one person made a 
>> comment regarding the evidence in the case. If you do not follow the 
>> directions of the police expect to be met with reprocussions. If you try to 
>> get the officers gun expect to get shot because I can guarantee that if all 
>> these sideline judges were put in this same situation they would want to go 
>> home to their family as well and not sit idly by and let some random citizen 
>> adolescent or adult take their gun to shoot them with it. It is insane the 
>> autopsy was done, and then if I am not mistaken Obuma was not satisfied with 
>> the results so he ordered another autopsy, and I think there were a few more 
>> autopsies done before they moved forward. How can you convict a person that 
>> was engaging in self defense?   
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>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>  
>> Unfortunately it sounds like in some of 
>>> On the sports media down there they are already convicted.  Sounds like a 
>>> convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway.  
>>  
>> Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, yet 
>> Pen State gets off pretty easy.  There’s still a lot of idiots around there 
>> that think that school is blameless and inocent with what went on there.  
>> Maybe UT should have set up in a much more isolated spot like Pen State did. 
>>  Of course I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is partially how Pen 
>> State has gotten away with a lot more for much longer.  A definite little 
>> theefdom there.  Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed for a lot less and 
>> get threatened with the chop.  Makes Illinois’s recruiting violation back in 
>> the early 90s look like chump change too, yet they were threatened with full 
>> shut down of all sports activity.  I guess it’s who you know in the NCAA.  
>> Which seems to me to be as clean as the driven slush.  I guess in the whole 
>> UT situation it was the school that stepped in and sat them down, but don’t 
>> know all of the details of the whole deal.  Guess we’ll hear something 
>> though if they decide to pursue a case on them.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>  
>> Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations 
>> against two of the football players. I just read today that one of the 
>> girl’s boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the 
>> boyfriend caught her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are more 
>> elements to the story, but KPD announced last night that there investigation 
>> was complete and being sent to the D.A.’s office to see if charges will be 
>> pursued. It is a tragic situation either way because if they are guilty then 
>> they have not only ruined their careers, but also ruined the victims lives. 
>> If they are not guilty, then I would say there will not be a decision until 
>> after the bowl game which will prevent them from playing in the game. Not 
>> too mention that if they are found not guilty there will still be people 
>> holding it against them. So, either way it is a major black mark on these 
>> players.  
>>  
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>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>  
>> But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s 
>> gotten 10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake.  If they then 
>> concentrate to much attention looking for him to run then he then is able to 
>> either use a running back or tail back or pass.  Thats why option offense is 
>> harder to defend.  You have to have a QB that can take some punishment 
>> though, no frail guys as QB, or guys who can’t work outside of a pocket of 
>> protection.  For those it’s a disaster for them to try to run the ball 
>> themselves.  Does though is in pretty good shape physically.  He’s taken 
>> sacks pretty well already this year too.  There have been a few reckless 
>> plays, but learning from them will cure those.  But that whole offense well 
>> really the whole team is having to learn because there’s so many freshman on 
>> that team this year.  They are already coming together as a unit pretty 
>> good, could be quite interesting even in a couple of years, let alone 3 
>> years from now.  
>>  
>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the teams to 
>>> take out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red shirt. 
>>>  
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>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>  
>>> He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t think.  I 
>>> think they would have at least taken Florida though, and maybe Georgia, and 
>>> that would have changed things a lot for U T.  Dobs fits in to the type of 
>>> offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of course is an option heavy 
>>> offense.  No problem with that, because your QB becomes a direct offensive 
>>> weapon at that point.  It is either going to work or not.  There isn’t a 
>>> middle ground, usually it works though.  
>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling that 
>>>> if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game and the 
>>>> Georgia game would have looked much different. I cannot remember if Dobbs 
>>>> played during the Alabama game or not, but I know all their games were 
>>>> close calls this past season. 
>>>>  
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>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>  
>>>> Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also.  Won just 
>>>> enough games in Big 10 this year.  It’s been a long time.
>>>>  
>>>> Interesting baseball trades going on today too.  Sox are definitely 
>>>> getting aggressive about trading.  Picked up a closer something that they 
>>>> didn’t have last year because the guy they wanted to be closer was hurt 
>>>> early.  Then they turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up their 
>>>> starting rotation.  Cubs have already been dealing, they don’t have many 
>>>> secrets as to who they are wanting, although the Lester deal hasn’t 
>>>> happened yet.  But if they pick him up that will anchor their starting 
>>>> rotation quite a bit too.  
>>>>  
>>>> As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for.  The SEC east 
>>>> isn’t a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to get around 
>>>> a team like Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve already improved 
>>>> over last year’s team despite injuries etc.  They don’t give up, unlike 
>>>> the Chicago Bears who seeo just curl up in a ball.  
>>>>  
>>>> Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and they’ve 
>>>> already landed a major recruit to start next year.  Lots of things on the 
>>>> sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears are so bad this 
>>>> year.    
>>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a pay 
>>>>> raise and a contract extension.
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM
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>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>  
>>>>> Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the next 
>>>>> year tr two seriously the way things are going.  They’ve had a lot of 
>>>>> injuries, but still manage to keep on going to some degree.  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than the guy 
>>>>> they had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon because he can 
>>>>> take more punishment running the ball himself.  Even in the Bama game 
>>>>> they did’t give up even though Bama got a two score lead within the first 
>>>>> couple of minutes of the game.  
>>>>>  
>>>>> Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to more 
>>>>> Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did hear the 
>>>>> Illini Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised they actually 
>>>>> pulled that one off.  I bet the Gofers were surprised the most coming in 
>>>>> with only 1 Big 10 loss at the time.  Think they looked over the Illini 
>>>>> and got burned on that one.  Well it serves them right they derailed the 
>>>>> Illini a number of times in the past.  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of the 
>>>>>> Vols this year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games we have 
>>>>>> played haven’t been blow outs either. In fact I heard yesterday I guess 
>>>>>> it was one more win for the Vols and we will be going to a bowl game. I 
>>>>>> wish they had of put Josh Dobbs in earlier in the season rather than 
>>>>>> redshirting him  as it may have caused more upsets especially with 
>>>>>> Muschimp and those Gators. Sorry for the hi-jack, but I am known for 
>>>>>> hijacking post. Right? *LOL*   
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
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>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 PM
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>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to teams 
>>>>>> that logically would be worse than them.  Up until yesterday even 
>>>>>> playing at home wasn’t helping them out.  But the NFL this year is 
>>>>>> completely goofy anyway.  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender 
>>>>>>> "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>" for DMARC) 
>>>>>>> <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hi everyone.  Nothing exciting on this end, just working and trying to 
>>>>>>> do some projects around the house for the appraisal...trying to 
>>>>>>> refinance and get some cash out of the house to pay for it all.   LOL
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello cake 
>>>>>>> yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share with his 
>>>>>>> friends/brother).  The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left right after 
>>>>>>> that to avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be expressed about the 
>>>>>>> loss.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving!
>>>>>>> BethAnn
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>>> <mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>> To: "audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" 
>>>>>>> <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> 
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:35 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hello, Josh and Tom.  Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio.  The snow 
>>>>>>> is coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and playing 
>>>>>>> in it with Selah.  well, she will play...I wouldn't do anything so 
>>>>>>> childish as that...lol
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed 
>>>>>>> Thanksgiving.  No turkey here of course...can't trust it.  chicken and 
>>>>>>> dumplings here for us.  The store killed chicken little for this dish 
>>>>>>> not me!!!!
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Hugs to you Bethie!!!!!  Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who just 
>>>>>>> turned 29.  OMG, I'm old.  Who let them grow up?  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx 
>>>>>>> <mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, it’s 
>>>>>>> just been dead quiet lately.  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and Pete 
>>>>>>> and who knows who else are probably driving around and stopping at 
>>>>>>> Wal-marts in Canada again trying to get Liz’s attention.  But I’m not 
>>>>>>> sure they are going to get Liz’s attention *lol*.  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too.  BethAnn 
>>>>>>> might be doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her next 
>>>>>>> album release or something, or she’s waiting to sell you a house Josh.  
>>>>>>> It might be “the perfect place.”  Or maybe not depends on who’s 
>>>>>>> standard of perfection is being used perhaps.  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Don’t know about Don.  Danny though is alive and well, eating lots and 
>>>>>>> lots of cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream corn, 
>>>>>>> because he doesn’t like it so he has been placed into the cream corn 
>>>>>>> factor.  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more talkative 
>>>>>>> over time at times.  She has a couple of appointments coming in 
>>>>>>> December, one is physical, the other is the Neurologist.  But I’m 
>>>>>>> thinking generally things will be going in the right direction for her 
>>>>>>> as afar as they are concerned.  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>   How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list in a 
>>>>>>>> few weeks now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself booted 
>>>>>>>> somehow unintentionally. I guess the last I seen any post was Tom and 
>>>>>>>> I interacting about the family issues. The issues are not a hundred 
>>>>>>>> percent, but I do feel that since Amanda stood up and stood her ground 
>>>>>>>> we have gotten more respect. Now, it seems as though we are actualy 
>>>>>>>> people and not servants. However, that could change at any moment. 
>>>>>>>> Well, we have our prequalification letter and have found a few houses 
>>>>>>>> that we are interested in. We have to call tomorrow and get a real 
>>>>>>>> estate agent. Getting the prequal was a bit ofa hassle though. Today 
>>>>>>>> Amanda and I went and bought little man some birthday presents and got 
>>>>>>>> his location reserved. Sometime this week we have to get the 
>>>>>>>> invitations filled-out. Amanda and I are in the home stretch of the 
>>>>>>>> semester and everything seems to be going alright. I am in one class 
>>>>>>>> where I will not know if I passed or failed until the final grade 
>>>>>>>> comes out since 50% of the points aren’t going to be figured until the 
>>>>>>>> end of the semester. Amanda as far as I know is doing fine in her 
>>>>>>>> classes, she has some projects that she is working on, but I belive 
>>>>>>>> they are going fine. So, as always we have a ton of things going on, 
>>>>>>>> but little time *LOL*. Have a good one and I hope to be able to read 
>>>>>>>> some list traffic here in a few days. Take care and chat later.      

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