Yep but often that is the trade off, to recruit you must make promises. Now whether they are kept is a different matter. The trick is to do it all and not get caught. > On Dec 15, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Bruce Pearl did in fact cause some problems for UT, but he also had some good > recruiters or good coaching skills one because when he was here the men’s > basketball team was doing some things and more than just Pat’s Lady Vols were > getting some recognition. > > From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 11:11 PM > To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town > > I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or retired out some of them were > hoping that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t glad they > didn’t. They were already in trouble, he would have probably gotten them in > more trouble. >> On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> >> Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, he >> leaves and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl and the >> basketball program. Even after Bruce was penalized from coaching, I think UT >> suffered penalties. Of course there are going to be some reprocussions on >> the program just because the coach is connected, but in a way I think our >> teams suffered more than the coaches. Probably just a biased opinion, but ya >> know. >> Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way that >> it could have went on that long and the situations continued without someone >> speaking up about it. >> The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does not >> apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself innocent. >> Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent until proven >> guilty, the rest of the public are ready to hang you before they even hear >> the evidence. A clear example of this occurred the other day in class. After >> the Grand Jury came back with a not guilty verdict in Ferguson my professor >> asked the classs what they thought about the incident. The responses were >> well they knew if they found him not guilty they were going to have a riot, >> they should have just found him guilty to keep the rioting from occurring, >> he was wrong for shooting Michael Brown, etc. However, not one person made a >> comment regarding the evidence in the case. If you do not follow the >> directions of the police expect to be met with reprocussions. If you try to >> get the officers gun expect to get shot because I can guarantee that if all >> these sideline judges were put in this same situation they would want to go >> home to their family as well and not sit idly by and let some random citizen >> adolescent or adult take their gun to shoot them with it. It is insane the >> autopsy was done, and then if I am not mistaken Obuma was not satisfied with >> the results so he ordered another autopsy, and I think there were a few more >> autopsies done before they moved forward. How can you convict a person that >> was engaging in self defense? >> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM >> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >> >> Unfortunately it sounds like in some of >>> On the sports media down there they are already convicted. Sounds like a >>> convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway. >> >> Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, yet >> Pen State gets off pretty easy. There’s still a lot of idiots around there >> that think that school is blameless and inocent with what went on there. >> Maybe UT should have set up in a much more isolated spot like Pen State did. >> Of course I’m being a smart ass about that, but that is partially how Pen >> State has gotten away with a lot more for much longer. A definite little >> theefdom there. Meanwhile schools like OSU get nailed for a lot less and >> get threatened with the chop. Makes Illinois’s recruiting violation back in >> the early 90s look like chump change too, yet they were threatened with full >> shut down of all sports activity. I guess it’s who you know in the NCAA. >> Which seems to me to be as clean as the driven slush. I guess in the whole >> UT situation it was the school that stepped in and sat them down, but don’t >> know all of the details of the whole deal. Guess we’ll hear something >> though if they decide to pursue a case on them. >> >> >> >> Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> >> Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations >> against two of the football players. I just read today that one of the >> girl’s boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the >> boyfriend caught her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are more >> elements to the story, but KPD announced last night that there investigation >> was complete and being sent to the D.A.’s office to see if charges will be >> pursued. It is a tragic situation either way because if they are guilty then >> they have not only ruined their careers, but also ruined the victims lives. >> If they are not guilty, then I would say there will not be a decision until >> after the bowl game which will prevent them from playing in the game. Not >> too mention that if they are found not guilty there will still be people >> holding it against them. So, either way it is a major black mark on these >> players. >> >> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM >> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >> >> But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s >> gotten 10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake. If they then >> concentrate to much attention looking for him to run then he then is able to >> either use a running back or tail back or pass. Thats why option offense is >> harder to defend. You have to have a QB that can take some punishment >> though, no frail guys as QB, or guys who can’t work outside of a pocket of >> protection. For those it’s a disaster for them to try to run the ball >> themselves. Does though is in pretty good shape physically. He’s taken >> sacks pretty well already this year too. There have been a few reckless >> plays, but learning from them will cure those. But that whole offense well >> really the whole team is having to learn because there’s so many freshman on >> that team this year. They are already coming together as a unit pretty >> good, could be quite interesting even in a couple of years, let alone 3 >> years from now. >> >>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the teams to >>> take out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red shirt. >>> >>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM >>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>> >>> He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t think. I >>> think they would have at least taken Florida though, and maybe Georgia, and >>> that would have changed things a lot for U T. Dobs fits in to the type of >>> offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of course is an option heavy >>> offense. No problem with that, because your QB becomes a direct offensive >>> weapon at that point. It is either going to work or not. There isn’t a >>> middle ground, usually it works though. >>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling that >>>> if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game and the >>>> Georgia game would have looked much different. I cannot remember if Dobbs >>>> played during the Alabama game or not, but I know all their games were >>>> close calls this past season. >>>> >>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM >>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>> >>>> Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also. Won just >>>> enough games in Big 10 this year. It’s been a long time. >>>> >>>> Interesting baseball trades going on today too. Sox are definitely >>>> getting aggressive about trading. Picked up a closer something that they >>>> didn’t have last year because the guy they wanted to be closer was hurt >>>> early. Then they turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up their >>>> starting rotation. Cubs have already been dealing, they don’t have many >>>> secrets as to who they are wanting, although the Lester deal hasn’t >>>> happened yet. But if they pick him up that will anchor their starting >>>> rotation quite a bit too. >>>> >>>> As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for. The SEC east >>>> isn’t a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to get around >>>> a team like Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve already improved >>>> over last year’s team despite injuries etc. They don’t give up, unlike >>>> the Chicago Bears who seeo just curl up in a ball. >>>> >>>> Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and they’ve >>>> already landed a major recruit to start next year. Lots of things on the >>>> sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears are so bad this >>>> year. >>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a pay >>>>> raise and a contract extension. >>>>> >>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM >>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>> >>>>> Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the next >>>>> year tr two seriously the way things are going. They’ve had a lot of >>>>> injuries, but still manage to keep on going to some degree. >>>>> >>>>> Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than the guy >>>>> they had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon because he can >>>>> take more punishment running the ball himself. Even in the Bama game >>>>> they did’t give up even though Bama got a two score lead within the first >>>>> couple of minutes of the game. >>>>> >>>>> Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to more >>>>> Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did hear the >>>>> Illini Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised they actually >>>>> pulled that one off. I bet the Gofers were surprised the most coming in >>>>> with only 1 Big 10 loss at the time. Think they looked over the Illini >>>>> and got burned on that one. Well it serves them right they derailed the >>>>> Illini a number of times in the past. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of the >>>>>> Vols this year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games we have >>>>>> played haven’t been blow outs either. In fact I heard yesterday I guess >>>>>> it was one more win for the Vols and we will be going to a bowl game. I >>>>>> wish they had of put Josh Dobbs in earlier in the season rather than >>>>>> redshirting him as it may have caused more upsets especially with >>>>>> Muschimp and those Gators. Sorry for the hi-jack, but I am known for >>>>>> hijacking post. Right? *LOL* >>>>>> >>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 PM >>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>> >>>>>> The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to teams >>>>>> that logically would be worse than them. Up until yesterday even >>>>>> playing at home wasn’t helping them out. But the NFL this year is >>>>>> completely goofy anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender >>>>>>> "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>" for DMARC) >>>>>>> <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everyone. Nothing exciting on this end, just working and trying to >>>>>>> do some projects around the house for the appraisal...trying to >>>>>>> refinance and get some cash out of the house to pay for it all. LOL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello cake >>>>>>> yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share with his >>>>>>> friends/brother). The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left right after >>>>>>> that to avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be expressed about the >>>>>>> loss. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! >>>>>>> BethAnn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>> To: "audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" >>>>>>> <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:35 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, Josh and Tom. Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio. The snow >>>>>>> is coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and playing >>>>>>> in it with Selah. well, she will play...I wouldn't do anything so >>>>>>> childish as that...lol >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed >>>>>>> Thanksgiving. No turkey here of course...can't trust it. chicken and >>>>>>> dumplings here for us. The store killed chicken little for this dish >>>>>>> not me!!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hugs to you Bethie!!!!! Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who just >>>>>>> turned 29. OMG, I'm old. Who let them grow up? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, it’s >>>>>>> just been dead quiet lately. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and Pete >>>>>>> and who knows who else are probably driving around and stopping at >>>>>>> Wal-marts in Canada again trying to get Liz’s attention. But I’m not >>>>>>> sure they are going to get Liz’s attention *lol*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too. BethAnn >>>>>>> might be doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her next >>>>>>> album release or something, or she’s waiting to sell you a house Josh. >>>>>>> It might be “the perfect place.” Or maybe not depends on who’s >>>>>>> standard of perfection is being used perhaps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don’t know about Don. Danny though is alive and well, eating lots and >>>>>>> lots of cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream corn, >>>>>>> because he doesn’t like it so he has been placed into the cream corn >>>>>>> factor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more talkative >>>>>>> over time at times. She has a couple of appointments coming in >>>>>>> December, one is physical, the other is the Neurologist. But I’m >>>>>>> thinking generally things will be going in the right direction for her >>>>>>> as afar as they are concerned. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list in a >>>>>>>> few weeks now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself booted >>>>>>>> somehow unintentionally. I guess the last I seen any post was Tom and >>>>>>>> I interacting about the family issues. The issues are not a hundred >>>>>>>> percent, but I do feel that since Amanda stood up and stood her ground >>>>>>>> we have gotten more respect. Now, it seems as though we are actualy >>>>>>>> people and not servants. However, that could change at any moment. >>>>>>>> Well, we have our prequalification letter and have found a few houses >>>>>>>> that we are interested in. We have to call tomorrow and get a real >>>>>>>> estate agent. Getting the prequal was a bit ofa hassle though. Today >>>>>>>> Amanda and I went and bought little man some birthday presents and got >>>>>>>> his location reserved. Sometime this week we have to get the >>>>>>>> invitations filled-out. Amanda and I are in the home stretch of the >>>>>>>> semester and everything seems to be going alright. I am in one class >>>>>>>> where I will not know if I passed or failed until the final grade >>>>>>>> comes out since 50% of the points aren’t going to be figured until the >>>>>>>> end of the semester. Amanda as far as I know is doing fine in her >>>>>>>> classes, she has some projects that she is working on, but I belive >>>>>>>> they are going fine. So, as always we have a ton of things going on, >>>>>>>> but little time *LOL*. Have a good one and I hope to be able to read >>>>>>>> some list traffic here in a few days. Take care and chat later.