Hi John, thanks for your helpful reply to various mac issues. I've now had a chance to have another play, and have one or two issues or questions: 1. Given that VoiceOver can't read the input slider, do you use the sound window of system preferences to adjust the input volume? Gale has suggested assigning a keystroke (for example ctrl+4) to adjust input gain in the keyboard category of preferences. This then brings up an input volume dialog which contains both an edit box and a slider. My feeling is that using system preferences might be easier for new users of audacity. 2. When VoiceOver reads a text box containing a number, it just reads out a series of digits, and doesn't read out if there's a minus sign, or if there are decimal points in the number. For example, in the amplification effect, when VoiceOver reads the Amplification text box, it doesn't read any decimal point. From what I remember, if you interact with the text box, you can arrow through the characters in the text box, and all the characters are read, although it reads a minus sign as dash. 3. Equalization effect. If the Graphic EQ radio button is checked, then VoiceOver can interact with the sliders. It's strange that it can interact with these sliders, but not the input/output sliders in the main window. However, if you move a slider to a low value, like 0%, then it get's stuck and you can't increase it beyond about 5%. David. ________________________________ From: John W. Hess <wysiwygtechnologies@xxxxxxxxx> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2012, 5:41 Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Audacity 2.0 build for Mac Good evening David. I am a mac user and use the 2.0 accessible build that was made available by leland. I have not tried the knightly builds. LEt me try to answer your questions. 1. With a track being the focus, if you change whether it is selected or mute or solo, voiceover doesn't automatically read its updated state. I had to move away and then back to it to get it to read this. Is there a voiceover keystroke to read the current object so that the user doesn't have to move away and then back? (like insert+up arrow in Jaws). >Control-Option-W is the command to do this. REmember for this to work you'll >need to interact with the item that says "panel" and then interact with the >scroll area within the panel. Then control-w wil read the track name and it's >state weather it's selected, soloed or muted. 2. In the controls for selection start, selection end etc, if you use the arrow keys to change the time, then voiceover doesn't automatically read anything.It has ben that way since Leland started working on the accessible builds. admittedly I didn't report this one because I found that using Control-option-W would read the information adequately. It would be nice to have it read when the arrows were moved. Perhaps something that can be worked on? 3. Voiceover didn't read the input or output sliders in the toolbars. It just said multiple indicators. >I see the same thing here. Ineracting with the slider doesn't help here to get >the information. Wuld be nice to have this working. . 4. In the metadata editor, voiceover couldn't read anything in the table. >Haven't used that at all. >My access to a mac is limited, but I'd be grateful if mac users of audacity >would let me know if these are real problems, or if there's something I >haven't done right. >They are definitely problems and if possible should be addressed. thanks, >David. > > >________________________________ >From: Leland <leland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2012, 0:38 >Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Audacity 2.0 build for Mac > >The Mac accessibility patches have been applied to the main source and you >should now be able to use the nightly builds to get quicker access to new >features and help test (hint, hint :-)). > >The nightly builds can be found at: > >http://audacity.homerow.net/index.php?dir=mac > >Leland > >The audacity4blind web site is at >//www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind > >Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, >Audacity keyboard commands, and more... > >To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to >audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >with subject line >unsubscribe > >The audacity4blind web site is at >//www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind > >Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, >Audacity keyboard commands, and more... > >To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to >audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >with subject line >unsubscribe > > The audacity4blind web site is at //www.freelists.org/webpage/audacity4blind Subscribe and unsubscribe information, message archives, Audacity keyboard commands, and more... To unsubscribe from audacity4blind, send an email to audacity4blind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with subject line unsubscribe