Hello Jan-Peter, Yes, the image has 3 strips (marked "D65 fluo OBC", "D65 fluo" and "D50" one above the other). Each of the strips is from the same image (so same RGB/Lab data). When I created the image I made sure that all the colors are in gamut for the target profile. The illuminant is a D65 fluorescent and the paper is a Permajet Oyster. Looking at the SPD of the paper it does seem that it has a lot of FWA as there is quite a big hump around 400nm. I don't know how much UV is in the lamp. Could you tell me how I can estimate this doing an M1/M2 measurement? (using spotread, I assume?). I produced 3 profiles, the first being the default D50 profile, the second one with illuminant compensation for the fluorescent lamp, and the third one with FWA compensation for the fluorescent lamp. I then printed the strips using Relative Colorimetric from Beta RGB (which was used as the source profile in colprof as you can see). I then stuck the strips on board, one on top of the other, and photographed them under the fluorescent lamp. Robert _____ From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jan-Peter Homann Sent: 08 December 2014 10:12 To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [argyllcms] Re: FWA Compensation Hello Robert, hello List Is it correct, that you the photo represents prints, which are based on the same RGB-data, converted to each printer profile, printed all out and than compared under D65 light ? Which rendering intent you have used ? Please consider, that the profiling software tries to compensate the lightning / OBA influence in this case. You should also consider, that there different strategies for paper makers to create papers with a cold bright paperwhite. One is the usage of OBA and another the usage of bluish whitening agents. Such things are best detected, if you compare M1 and M2 measurements of the paperwhite. Furthermore, it can be the case, that your D65 lightning has only low UV content in the lightning spectra. Regards Jan-Peter Am 08.12.14 09:58, schrieb robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Graham, I've done a test which I have posted on Luminous Landscape, here: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=95251.msg782782#msg7 82782 I would appreciate you having a look at this post as the results are not what I would have expected (actually, they are the opposite of what I expected). Could be that I'm confused. Here are the commands I used for standard D50 illuminant, D65-Fluorescent illuminant, D65-Fluorescent illuminant with FWA compensation: colprof -v -ACanon -MiPF6400 -Dprofile -qh -SBetaRGB.icc -cmd -dpe -Oprofile.icc profile colprof -v -ACanon -MiPF6400 -iprofile-D65-Fluorescent.sp -fprofile-D65-Fluorescent.sp -Dprofile-D65-Fluorescent-FWA -qh -SBetaRGB.icc -cmd -dpe -Oprofile-D65-Fluorescent-FWA.icc profile colprof -v -ACanon -MiPF6400 -iprofile-D65-Fluorescent.sp -Dprofile-D65-Fluorescent -qh -SBetaRGB.icc -cmd -dpe -Oprofile-D65-Fluorescent.icc profile Thanks Robert -- homann colormanagement ----------- fon +49 30 611 075 18 Jan-Peter Homann -------------- mobile +49 171 54 70 358 Herzbergstr. 55 FG 3.01 -- http://www.colormanagement.de 10365 Berlin ---------- mailto:homann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx