[arachne] Re: How to store a complete web page?
- From: "Eric S. Emerson" <wildrice5@xxxxxxxx>
- To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:50:39 -0500
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Jason,
Well, I'm certainly not looking
for a squabble. I had a different perspective
on the "save webpage" discussion. I saw
it as a kind of as a developmental discussion
that might lead to the final result of an
option to save a webpage with a single
keystroke or two. I was just trying to
point out that most of the capability was
already in Arachne and just needs some
minor tweaking to implement it. And if
someone really needed it right now....
the steps I gave would work until a
better/easier solution was created. :-)
Eric
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:38:38 -0500 Jason Dodd <jasorn@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
>
> Eric,
>
> Oh, I wasn't laughing that way. More of a friendly way. I like you
>
> guys too much for that. If attachments were allowed I'd have
> attached
> an ogg file so you'd know.
>
> But when I see a ton of emails on the simple question of "how do you
>
> save a web page and all of it's files?" and they are all either long
>
> lists of steps or a short list of steps that don't really result in
> what
> the question is asking, I think, "why hasn't anyone said something
> like,
> "yeah, arachne should have a simple way to save a complete website.
>
> we'll add that to the list."
>
> Maybe I'm touchy here again because at work I'm using a 3270 client
> I
> haven't used before and cutting and pasting from the pc to the
> mainframe
> wasn't working right. I asked my coworkers and got the reply," just
> ftp
> the file you want to cut and paste from to the mainframe :)
>
> To your point. Why don't I change it? When looking for projects to
>
> work on I by passed arachne mostly because in my judgement based on
> my
> time on this list, most here wouldn't like my changes.
>
> Eric S. Emerson wrote:
> > Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >
> > Well Jason,
> > My pet peave is
> > someone who thinks, just because he
> > is a programmer for 20 years, it gives
> > him the right to laugh at others who
> > are trying to point out how something
> > works. You have the knowledge and
> > ability....go ahead and write a batch
> > file that will make it work with as many
> > keystrokes/steps as you want.
> > I was not giving a diversion answer.
> > I was explaining the steps required so
> > that someone else could take it from
> > there. I don't even save webpages.
> > I don't have enough space on this
> > computer to waste on saving webpages. :-)
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 21:30:07 -0500 Jason Dodd <jasorn@xxxxxxxxx>
> writes:
> >
> >> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >>
> >> Now, now. I happen to be a programmer. Going on 20 years now.
> I
> >> think
> >> I've met my quota.
> >>
> >> The point is simply that saving a page should be a matter of 2
> >> steps.
> >> 1. Telling the browser you want to save it and 2. Telling it
> where
> >> you
> >> want to save it.
> >>
> >> My pet peeve of giving a diversion answer again :)
> >>
> >> Eric S. Emerson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >>>
> >>> Jason,
> >>> I'm glad you can find something
> >>> to laugh at...but...If you would stop laughing
> >>> long enough to write a batch file or an .ook
> >>> you could make it very simple process performed
> >>> when you pressed a single hotkey. I find
> >>> it difficult to write/think when someone is standing
> >>> looking over my shoulder and laughing.
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:02:39 -0500 Jason Dodd <jasorn@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> >>>
> >> writes:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >>>>
> >>>> Forgive me but I have to laugh 'when all you have to do' is 4
> >>>>
> >> steps
> >>
> >>>> to
> >>>> save a webpage.
> >>>>
> >>>> Eric S. Emerson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Arachne at FreeLists---The Arachne Fan Club!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All one needs to do to save a webpage
> >>>>> with all pictures is to:
> >>>>> 1. Save the URL to your Hotlist
> >>>>> 2. Save all files of that webpage in a directory
> >>>>> 3. Save all the corresponding headers to the webpage
> >>>>> files in a directory
> >>>>> 4. When you want to see the webpage, just
> >>>>> ......a. put all webpage files (tmp,htm,etc.) back into
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> arachne\cache
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> ......b. put all headers (htt) back into arachne\cache\headers
> >>>>> ......c. goto Hotlist and click on the link
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It helps to identify all files in the cache belonging
> >>>>> to that particular webpage if the cache is empty
> >>>>> when the webpage is originally loaded from the
> >>>>> Internet.
> >>>>> It's easy to identifiy headers since the 8 digit name/
> >>>>> number corresponds to the cache file name/number.
> >>>>> eg. 12345678.tmp has header 12345678.htt
> >>>>> eg. 22345678.htm has header 22345678.htt
> >>>>> The headers give all necessary info to relate
> >>>>> the cache files to the webpage/webpage link.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eric
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 12:30:12 -0800 (PST) "Eric S. Emerson"
> >>>>> <wildrice5@xxxxxxxx> writes:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> arachne4dos @coollist.com General List ----------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Ray,
> >>>>>> I guess I spoke too soon.....
> >>>>>> I just checked Webster's and......
> >>>>>> Soluble can mean solvable...but...
> >>>>>> solvable doesn't mean soluble.
> >>>>>> However, in all my text books, I never
> >>>>>> saw a problem describe as soluble.
> >>>>>> Maybe it's a difference in our languages? <ggg>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Eric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 10:33:31 -0800 (PST) "Ray Andrews"
> >>>>>> <randrews@xxxxxx>
> >>>>>> writes:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> arachne4dos @coollist.com General List ----------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:07:20 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ron, all:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yes. Opera and Firefox for starters.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We could do it, I'm sure of it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> However, it should be possible to get WGET to do exactly
> the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> same
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> thing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All we need to do is to pass to a working WGET: the
> absolute
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> URL
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> of the page on
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the screen, the directory where it is to be downloaded, and
>
> >>>>>>>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> parameters that
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> WGET needs to make the full download/copy of the page and
> its
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> associated files.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I can do this in Linux and DOS from the commandline, so it
> >>>>>>>>
> >> just
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> needs someone
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> clever to put an .APM together and secure a hotkey
> selection
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> for
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the process.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And, as it happens, I already have an .OOK that will do it
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> anyway,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> once you have
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> placed the absolute URL into CLIP.TXT. :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If this is of enough interest, I will put something
> together
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> instructions
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> for a manual install of WGET, the .OOK and you can choose
> >>>>>>>>
> >> your
> >>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> own
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> hotkey. I
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> don't know how to turn that into an .APM.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well well, we can just make a mime.cfg that enslaves WGET to
>
> >>>>>>>
> >> do
> >>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> us :-) No need to build something into Arachne when the
> >>>>>>> functionality is
> >>>>>>> already there, heck, the reason I still believe in 16 bit
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> computing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> is precisely the fact that the 'browser' itself can be
> minimal
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> just call external programs to perform tasks like this. It
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> sounds
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>> we don't even need an APM if Ron is doing it with an OOK
> >>>>>>>
> >> anyway.
> >>
> >>>>>>> Ron, let's see it, this could be of general interest I'm
> sure.
> >>>>>>> BTW if there is a problem with LFN's, heck Arachne already
> can
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> get
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> around that when she stores stuff to cache, so it might be
> an
> >>>>>>> irritating problem, but soluble for sure. Let's do it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -- Arachne 1.91:B8:8V
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
>
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