[amayausers] Re: trim test

Hi Ed,
I ran the trim test.  Here are the results I got:
Round 1 (: 1st cycle thru all 16 needles) something
happened on needle 11 .  Right after it started
stitching I noticed that the needle was not threaded. 
Not sure what happened here.
Round 2:  the bobbin thread was not picked up on
needle 12.
Round 3:  no problems
Round 4:  no problems
Round 5:  the bobbin thread was not picked up on
needle 3
Not sure you can tell anything by these results.  I
did notice this though and it may mean something
different is happending.  I checked and my bobbin tail
is set for medium.  After a trim the bobbin tail is a
little over an inch long.  After what I thought was
the bobbin not picking up the bobbin tail was only 3/8
inch long.  Also have been noticing when this happens
usually a small amount of the thread knots in the
fabric and then the rest of the  thread is loose.  The
machine gives me a bobbin break error and then I can
pull all the beginning thread out except for the very
first few stitches that are knotted into the fabric. 
Maybe this us actually a bobbin break error and not
just that the bobbin thread is not being picked up. 
Either way, I'm not sure how I solve the situation. 
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Also, I did not have a single needle unthread after a
trim during the test.  But I wasn't doing any
lettering on this test either.  What are your thoughts
on this issue?

Thanks sooooo much for your and everyones help.




--- Ed Orantes <e3m@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> Susan,
>       There could be one of a number of issues that is
> giving you troubles:
> I would ask you this, when you experience the
> machine stopping immediately
> after it began because the top thread didn't tie in
> with the bobbin thread,
> if you remove the bobbin case - without actually
> pulling extra bobbin out of
> the case, how long is the bobbin thread tail?
>       Are you sure the machine is sewing with tie-ins
> when you experience these
> "pull outs".
> When you insert your bobbin case into the machine,
> are you sure to leave
> about 3 inches of thread dangling out the front?
> Have you tried a different bobbin case?
> Is your "inching stitch count" set too low.  I
> prefer a 6 or 7 as opposed to
> the factory setting of 3.
> Is you fabric flush to the needle plate as it sits
> in the hoop?
> What is the material thickness setting when the
> machine starts a new stitch?
> (Specifically when running in Auto Mode)
> Could your bobbin tension be set too tight?
> A medium tail length should be just fine.
> Is the "Pig tail" on your bobbin case bent?
> Do you find that you're getting inconsistent tension
> on the bobbin?
> Presser Foot setting all the way down?
>       (Move needle case to needle #16 - this adjustment
> wheel is just behind the
> needle case on the left hand side.  The outer most
> edge of the adjustment
> wheel is relative to the presser foot itself.  If
> you roll the wheel down,
> the presser foot will go down, etc., etc.  You will
> only see the presser
> foot move up and down with this adjustment wheel
> when the needle and presser
> foot are in the "Bottom Dead Center" position.  That
> means at it's bottom
> most portion of the needle stroke.  Never adjust
> this as the machine is
> running.  It could be a safety hazard.)
> Possibly your under thread presser is not holding
> the bobbin correctly after
> a trim.
> 
> Melco has put, in your software, a sewing test
> design called the Amaya trim
> test.  You should try to run this and see what
> results.  You can find it
> under:  C drive/program files/Melco Embroidery
> Systems/Amaya/Test
> Designs/Amayatrim.exp.  This design will give you
> something like 72 trims in
> a relatively small design but it will also give you
> 72 tie-in's as well.
> Make sure you assign all 16 needles in the color
> sequence and pay attention
> to not only how many "pull outs" you experience but
> also what needles they
> happen on.
> 
> Let me know what you find.
> 
> Ed Orantes
> 504-258-6260
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [amayausers] bobbin not picking up
> 
> 
> So let's go forth and embrace 2006 with a "never say
> > die" attitude and
> > welcome aboard all of our new list participants
> who
> > will undoubtedly ask...
> "I seem to be having a few too many thread breaks,
> > can anyone help?"
> >
>
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> Yes, Ed this is me.  And now for another one of
> those
> questions.  I have an XT and
> I have been having trouble with the bobbin thread
> being engaged at the beginnning of a color change
> for
> a while now.  I initially increased my slow stitches
> and put it at 8.  That seemed to do the trick for a
> while.  Then I started having trouble again.  I
> loosened the tension on my bobbin slightly--but not
> very much because before I was having trouble with
> false bobbin breaks, which if I'm right is due to
> too
> high of MT and/or too loose of bobbin tension.  That
> seemed to do the trick for a while too.  Then
> tonight
> I had more sporadic episodes of the bobbin thread
> just
> not wanting to pick up at all.  I decreased my MT
> just
> for the bobbin pick up and than increased it right
> away for the sewout when this happened.  This seems
> to
> do the trick.  But I don't want to constantly or
> sporadically be changing the MT back and forth for
> each color change.  Any ideas of what is happening
> or
> what I am doing wrong???
> 
> Also, my bobbin enabled to tell me to replace my
> bobbin after
> stitches.  I don't think this can be right because
> when the message pops up I don't think even half my
> bobbin thread is gone.  Previously I wasn't paying
> attention to this message because I didn't want to
> waste bobbin thread.  But I decided maybe I would
> have
> less trouble if I replace my bobbin before it was
> all
> used up.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help I get.
> 
> Susan
> 
> 
> >
> 
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Susan Riedlinger
Embroidery Station
Columbus, OH


                
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