[amayausers] Re: problems with hats

  • From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 14:36:08 -0400

I thought of the double backing to compensate-but then you've defeated the
purpose of fast hooping-time is money and on a single head machine, only
getting 5 hats an hour even with a 3,000 stitch design isn't
profitable...adding the time to set in more backing, AND figuring out how in
the world to hold it in place to set it on the hooping device is going to
triple the time per hat.
Other designs I think I can compensate with the extra backstitching, but
this one bullet is a pain-I'm afraid if I 'split' the bullet the seam will
show...but what if I just do the underlayment, then the extra underlayment,
and then the fill...hummm, have to try that-otherwise see how good I am at
setting two 'pieces' side by side and not having the pattern change. Too
large for satin stitch-tried that-horrible results.
Roland

> From: "E. Orantes" <e3m@xxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:33:56 -0500
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: problems with hats
> 
> True, very true Rod.
> A very handy tool for those who know of it's features.  However, if the
> "bullet" in this design is both on the seam and off the seam, it's going to
> be very difficult for him to get this feature to work correctly.  I've even
> wondered about putting some kind of thick backing on both sides of the
> center seam to "build up" the thickness of the cap front so that one could
> set the material thickness setting to one number and rock and roll.  Hey,
> maybe there's an invention here???
> Let's put our heads together and cash in!
> Ed
> 
> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> E.M. Broidery
> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> New Orleans, La. 70056
> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:59 PM
> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: problems with hats
> 
> 
> Roland,
> What you described as to the "bullet" and setting the material thickness
> high across the center seam and the rest of the "bullet" getting loopy is
> exactly why the "Settings by Color" is such a neat tool. Go into "Settings"
> in Amaya OS, click on "Settings by Color", check the little box for
> "settings by color", this will now allow you to select each individual color
> in the design and set speed, column width, material thickness, run fill
> speed, etc., for the specific needle it is sewing on at the time.
> 
> As an example, lets say we were going to sew your first name on the front of
> a six panel cap. Roland is six letters so depending on the size of the
> letters, at least two of these letters in your name will be squarely on the
> seam. So as you are type setting the name you would type in RO(insert color
> break)LA(insert color break)ND. Now you can assign "ROLAND" to be all the
> same color or 3 different colors if you like but now you can use "Settings
> by Color" to change the speed, column with, material thickness, etc., on all
> three sections of your name. You can set RO at a speed of 900, material
> thickness at say 6 to 8, set LA at a speed of 700, material thickness at say
> 15+ and set ND back to Speed of  900, material thickness of 6 to
> 8..........the machine will now adjust itself to these pre-assigned settings
> as it is sewing........... this is a very handy tool......
> 
> Rod
> 
> Embroidery Cottage
> Rod & Sharon Springer
> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
> 
> Boise, ID  83713
> 208-938-3038
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:00 PM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: problems with hats
> 
> 
>> I'll try and go through your comments and see if we can narrow it down.
>> Design is a 'mountain' silhouette with 3 large letters across it, under
>> neath is an 'oval' (bullet, we call it in sign making)-about 1/2" high and
>> 3.5" long-fill is #18 I think, and then 1/4" lettering over that. The
>> large
>> lettering above goes across the seam after the mountains are done, so that
>> must be enough underlayment to compensate. The 'bullet' is the first part
>> sewed-and the bowtie starts as soon as the fill goes into and over the
>> 'seam'.
>> Using sharps, speed set at 900, hat is only hooped across the top of the
>> brim, so you can't get it any tighter-I am not impressed with either of
>> the
>> Melco hat hoops-any unstructured hat and there is nothing but problem with
>> design registration on it.
>> I've set density as low as 6 and as high as 20-to see what happens. I'd
>> say
>> out of the batch of 12 I just ran, maybe TWO came out decent.
>> Did not know about adding extra zigzag, that will be next. All I got for
>> 'training' in digitizing was about 5 hours over 2 days and not very
>> technical-more just the basic. What I've done is destructed Dakota
>> designs-gone backwards through them to see how they were done and in what
>> order, etc. to figure out shortcuts, stitch flow, etc. which helps a lot.
>> hats with good construction and a 'cheesy' center seam are no problem-its
>> the more expensive 'textured' or cordoroy fabric hats, with the doublesewn
>> hems with an additional bias tape cover sewn over them inside. If I try to
>> compensate and set the density real high-the seam area is fine, but then
>> the
>> rest of the bullet is loopy....just can't win!
>> Settings by color-that's news to me....I don't find the manual to be too
>> much help-it seems to be written for techno geeks and I'm not one....but
>> I'll get it out and see what I can figure out!
>> and now I have the superplush collars on severa christmas stockings to
>> figure out how to embroider....never ends!
>> Thanks
>> Roland
>> 
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