My parents used the cardboard sided bobbins for many years. When I took over thier business they have some sideless bobbins that they never used so I tried them. I have nothing but tension problems, threw them all away. I went back to cardboard sided ones since those seem to work best for my machine. I do keep black and white bobbins in stock and use the black bobbins on dark clothing in case the tension goes off a little, it isn't that noticable as a white bobbin (unless it is white thread). From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: magna-glide bobbin Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 12:14:27 -0500 Here here on the bobbins rolling across the floor! I've never tried the NEBs, just the Coats. We did try the Melcomart 'generics' once-never again. Black has been almost as bad-very inconsistent thread but that's a problem with almost any black material also. Since we have had little problem since using the auto tension with bobbins, we stayed with the coats and have a box of the magnetic white on hand for trouble causing material. I noticed the huge difference in stitch count per bobbin on the larger designs we seem to run a lot-so my wife prefers not to be changing the bobbin so often and hence the Coats over the magnetic ones. Back over a year ago melco techs were really against the magnetic bobbins, even though Melco supplied them. Maybe whatever objections they had have been dealt with because I haven't seen any posts 'against' the magnetics. I can see staying with all magnetics...handy not to have to doublecheck tension with the 'drop' test on every change. Just a cost factor on our end, that's all. Maybe if they run a sale and the price comes down, or another supplier pops up with a lower price I'd switch them all over. Never know! Roland On Nov 9, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Kushnerick wrote: > Hi Roland > > As embroiderers, we all know that proper thread tensions start with > the > bobbin and because of this, a smooth consistent running bobbin is > essential to high quality stitching [regardless of machine brand]. > > With this in mind, some time ago we started testing prewound bobbins > [tension gauge and test designs] to find out which bobbins worked best > for us and our machine. This was not any high tech lab test process > and > I am certainly not suggesting that it is the definitive answer to > which > prewound bobbins are the best BUT for us and our machine, the most > consistent smooth running bobbins were [in no special order] 1) the > magna-glides [sideless] 2) the NEB's [plastic side] and 3) the > Coats Tru-Sew [paper side]. > > Now some machines seem to prefer one type of bobbin [sideless, plastic > or paper sides] over another but in our case, the machine doesn't > really > seem to care so we are free to use any type we like. We are getting > ready to order more black bobbins [we use black 3 to 1 over white] and > will probably go with the magna-glides over NEB's or Tru-Sew ..... and > the only real reason is that with the magnet, the bobbin doesn't fall > out of the bobbin case and go rolling across the floor with me on my > ands and knees chasing it. > > Have a great day. > > Bob > > > . > > Roland R. Irish III wrote: > >> some techs are dead set against the magnetic, others say they are >> okay. >> Amaya users seem to have the same thoughts-you either love them or >> hate them. >> Here's what I found... >> yes, the magnetic bobbins work great-no problems with loose tension, >> better for fine detail >> You can buy them anywhere, even MelcoMart has them...#17055 >> >> But, when you do the math, they cost more and have less footage per >> spool. >> You are only talking pennies per sewout though. >> We save them for problem sewouts, don't use them for everything. >> What we DID learn was to stay away from 'generic' or low price >> bobbins... >> nothing but trouble with them! >> >> Roland >> =========================================================== >> >> The AmayaUsers Mailing List >> Website: http://www.amayausers.com >> Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list >> >> =========================================================== >> >> >> > > =========================================================== > > The AmayaUsers Mailing List > Website: http://www.amayausers.com > Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list > > =========================================================== > =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list =========================================================== _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================