when the tech was up here last week he noticed I used the CCF instead of WACF hooper...we ran off some hats and he showed me the problem. The CCF hoop doesn't have the 'brim' holder that the WACF does. Says he thought it was available from Melco but I don't find anything in the catalog for it. Definitely will make a difference in the hats. Anyone seen this brim clamp for the CCF? Roland