Last batch of hats I did the backs on (and it is the only batch so far!) I took someone else's hint, maybe Herb's? and used the yellow speedclamp...and set the lettering on a slight arc to follow the cap back. Worked slick-'hooping' so to speak was about 10 seconds per cap. You can use a grease pencil (I have them for graphic work-called Stabilo pencils) and mark a reference point on each side of the yellow frame to 'hit the mark' each time with the next hat. I used scraps of other backing material that were wide enough to go across the frame and just slide the hat over them. Just an extra 'hand' to hold the hat once it starts to sew. With the auto tension, worked slick! Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================