This message was posted by Juli in Kona on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/4/218.html#000006 You might want to look into getting the old reg hat hoop. It will only do the front two panels (6" across) but that is mostly what I do anyway. I got just one, and I can hoop so fast that I don't think I need another one. After struggling with the 180 deg newer hoop, you will love the old one. I have a customer who has a group of young boys (Pop Warner). He wouldn't dare try to guess what these young guys want in the way of hats. He is coming by to give me the order soon, but he said he is amazed at what they chose. DO NOT try to outguess the teenagers!!! Juli in Kona =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================