This message was posted by KERRMINATOR on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/1167.html#000002 Personally, I hate hats :( I was doing this one crest logo for a polo club and it stitched fine on the polo shirts, then the guy decided he wanted it put on baseball caps as well. Oye Vay! So, I just went ahead and tried it out on a hat, but it was all screwy. It was supposed to be 2 inches high and about the same wide.....it turned out 2 inches high and maybe 1.5 inches wide. So it looked ridiculous. I had to stretch it out to a silly looking width and leave the height the same in order for it to look normal on the hat. I know if I stitched that design on a flat garment, it would be incredibly wide looking. I'm now wondering if it would have been possible to use the fast frames with sticky backing for those since they were unstructured caps. Unfortunately, I don't have fast frames so I don't know if it would have given me better results or caused more problems. :p =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================